Does Wikileaks have anything more on DNC/HRC/etc megethread

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How though? Outside of giving us access to John Podesta's email address, I cant think of any type of proof.

maybe some great quotes from both brazile and kaine..... won't prove anything anyway.

Or if the hack is ongoing, e-mails from Brazile and Kaine discussing how the e-mails leaked so far are real.  But I don't think the hack is ongoing - or that they'd be stupid enough to e-mail something like that now.

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Why is O'Keefe not in prison? It's past time that these people illegally recording conversation and stealing information are prosecuted. I'd love to see his attitude be so smug if he was trapped in a jail cell eating crappy food.

Yeah, that First Amendment is horrible.  We should abolish it!  Darn journalists!

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Yeah, that First Amendment is horrible.  We should abolish it!  Darn journalists!

o'keefe is not a journalist, he is an activist.

and ofc he walks a subtle line regarding breaking the law...but this is not for me to decide.

O'Keefe is a citizen journalist, doing the types of jobs 60 Minutes and other TV news magazines used to do more often.  That he has a particular point of view in his pieces is irrelevant.  So did 60 Minutes when they used to do hidden camera journalism more often than they do now.

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Yeah, that First Amendment is horrible.  We should abolish it!  Darn journalists!

o'keefe is not a journalist, he is an activist.

and ofc he walks a subtle line regarding breaking the law...but this is not for me to decide.

O'Keefe is a citizen journalist, doing the types of jobs 60 Minutes and other TV news magazines used to do more often.  That he has a particular point of view in his pieces is irrelevant.  So did 60 Minutes when they used to do hidden camera journalism more often than they do now.

All journalists are citizens somewhere, but not just anyone can be a journalist. To be a journalist you actually do legitimate reporting and writing, not just sending out tweets and posting videos. The fact that you would compare this person to 60 Minutes is just plain dumb.

Sorry.  Just because you disagree with a citizen journalist's point of view doesn't make them anything less of a journalist.  There is no meaningful difference between a hidden camera sting on your sleazy local used car dealer or a sleazy political figure.  Exposing the unwanted truth lurking behind the scenes is the epitome of investigative journalism.  And both are protected by the First Amendment.

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That he has a particular point of view in his pieces is irrelevant. 

no, it is not.

if you are a columnist or an editorializer, it's okay...and even good to show where you are coming from.

he is more like michael moore or dinesh d'souza..... creating movies through investigative techniques and then using the material in an enteraining way, fitting your narrative, without transparency or a chance for a re-check.

it's political activism and it's all right...we just shouldn't swallow it without critical questions.

Well, you shouldn't swallow ANYTHING without critical questions.

Michael Moore and Dinesh D'Souza are as much journalists under the First Amendment as O'Keefe and others.  That they have a political point of view is irrelevant.

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Wait, Atlas? As in this Atlas? Woah...

No.  A polling/data firm that the Clinton campaign was working with that had Atlas as part of its name.  Not us.