Atlas throwback : 1999 edition

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Its Nov of 1999 what would Atlas say about the election:

I think that Bush is going to win the GOP primary and Gore will win the Dem primary


To me this is how the election will look look like

Gore 223
Bush 184
Tossup 131

To me Bush will likely need a midwesterner as his to capture those tossup midwestern states , and Gore will likely need a moderate dem who has accross the board appeal to win tossup states everywhere

for this reason I think the Bush will select  Governor Tom Ridge as his vp and Gore will select Gephardt

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Poppy Bush's son winning? Yeah, if you have to go back to JQA to find an example of that, then it's not happening. McCain is the underdog, but he's probably the eventual victor.

Except I have this election as a tossup

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This is my McCain(If he somehow can get the nomination) vs Gore map

McCain 269
Gore 269

Who ever wins house becomes president

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I think who ever wins will be a one term president as this economic boom we are having cant possibly last till 2004

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Jim Folsom, Jr., Ray Mabus, or Don Siegelman are the best Southerners for Gore. Maybe Gene Taylor or Jim Hodges.

This is the best I could see McCain doing:

282: Albert Gore/Raymond Mabus
256: John McCain/George Pataki

Why does McCain win New York but not Oregon , Oregon has been more republican the New York for like a very very long time. 2nd question how does Gore win Virginia which even Carter 76 couldnt win. I cant remember the last time Virginia has gone to the dem nominee.

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Jim Folsom, Jr., Ray Mabus, or Don Siegelman are the best Southerners for Gore. Maybe Gene Taylor or Jim Hodges.

This is the best I could see McCain doing:

282: Albert Gore/Raymond Mabus
256: John McCain/George Pataki

How do you have Bush Doing

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Very out of the box but here goes nothing....

Bush/Cheney (R): 271 EVs, 47.9% PV
Gore/Lieberman (D): 266 EVs, 48.4% PV

Recount in Florida occurs but 5-4 decision in Bush v Gore stops recount and gives Bush the election

One faithless elector abstained because DC has lack of representation in congress

Green party candidate Ralph Nader gets 3% because Gore is perceived as too moderate

West Virginia going GOP lmao.

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No seems to remember that Donald Trump has been hinting for a while now he might run as one of those bland low-energy "moderate hero" types in the Reform Party. Not sure if that would make a difference (the man is dreadfully boring and has no charisma whatsoever) but giving Perot's numbers it should be taken into account.

Lmao Trump has basically gone bankrupt too many times and is a joke now . Maybe if he ran in 1992 or 1988 he could get 5-10 percent of the vote but not in 2000

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No seems to remember that Donald Trump has been hinting for a while now he might run as one of those bland low-energy "moderate hero" types in the Reform Party. Not sure if that would make a difference (the man is dreadfully boring and has no charisma whatsoever) but giving Perot's numbers it should be taken into account.

Lmao Trump has basically gone bankrupt too many times and is a joke now . Maybe if he ran in 1992 or 1988 he could get 5-10 percent of the vote but not in 2000

I really think you underestimate Trump. He could certainly bring the Reform Party to the left on economics and go after the old New Deal coalition. West Virginia, Pennsylvania and Michigan will be very interesting if he gets the nomination.

West Virginia is probably the 2nd most Democratic state in the nation other then Mass, so even if trump gets 10% of vote there there is no way a Dem can lose that state.

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No seems to remember that Donald Trump has been hinting for a while now he might run as one of those bland low-energy "moderate hero" types in the Reform Party. Not sure if that would make a difference (the man is dreadfully boring and has no charisma whatsoever) but giving Perot's numbers it should be taken into account.

Lmao Trump has basically gone bankrupt too many times and is a joke now . Maybe if he ran in 1992 or 1988 he could get 5-10 percent of the vote but not in 2000

I really think you underestimate Trump. He could certainly bring the Reform Party to the left on economics and go after the old New Deal coalition. West Virginia, Pennsylvania and Michigan will be very interesting if he gets the nomination.

West Virginia is probably the 2nd most Democratic state in the nation other then Mass, so even if trump gets 10% of vote there there is no way a Dem can lose that state.

Oh of course, Trump won't win a single state. But he could do surprisingly well in some very strong D states.

In my opinion by 2000s is the decade where things slowly start to go back to normal Republicans controlling the presidency democrats controlling congress.

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With Gephard as Gore vp and Ridge as Bush this is how I see the election going

Bush 267
Gore 253
Tossup 18

It comes down to Michigan and if trump is able to take more then 3-4% of the vote Bush is the next president as Trump would mainly take votes away from Gore in states like Michigan.

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Gore should go left with his Veep pick or someone with more charisma.

Bush is kinda appealing to me...but I'm skeptical about his foreign policy views and worried about his social conservatism.

I like his "strong but non-interventionist" style, but I have doubts that he will apply it. He'd need a strong VP pick to assure me of it. Colin Powell, Anne Armstrong, James Stockdale, David E. Jeremiah, or John Danforth would be good for that.

There's some speculation he might pick Cheney. Dear God, I hope not.

Cheney may be Sec of Def again if Bush wins but he wont be VP, but he's from Wyoming a state which Bush will win no matter what, so there is no way he gets picked as vp.

Bush needs to pick a midwestern as VP

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Hmm, what about former Mississippi governor and ambassador to Saudi Arabia Ray Mabus for Gore's running mate? I'd say he's similar to Clinton and he's got both executive and foreign policy experience. Plus, I think he's more folksy than Gore, which would be a plus.

How will that  pick help gore pick up those extra 47 electoral votes he needs to win

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Nah I think Florida will be lean Bush , don't forget Bush senior won there in 92 and Jeb won there in 98 (florida likes the bushes ) and George W Bush is a better campaigner then either .