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Question: Do you think the United States will engage in major military action over the next 4 years?
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« on: October 26, 2016, 04:39:31 PM »

Ignoring the war in Afghanistan and whatever you would classify our involvement with ISIS and Syria is, do you think the next President will preside over another war? The "Hillary will start a nuclear war with Russia" line is a hot topic with the alt-right at the moment, but even if you don't believe that we will end up at war with Russia there are always lots of hot spots that could flare up and require American action.

Defining a war is always pretty difficult in the modern era, but for the purpose of this question lets call it concerted and sustained military action against a state actor. So Libya would count, ISIS bombing would not. Attacking Iran would count, attacking the Houthis would not.
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« Reply #1 on: October 26, 2016, 06:00:41 PM »

If Obama doesn't do anything crazy in his last two months, I think the next four years will pass without a formal war. Russia and China will be allowed to continue marching across Europe and Asia, because the US will have no hunger for a massive conflict under either Clinton or Trump. Smaller conflicts will be handled regionally, although I expect anti-ISIS bombing will step up.
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« Reply #2 on: October 26, 2016, 06:35:30 PM »

Either civil war or war with Russia, I'd bet on it.
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« Reply #3 on: October 26, 2016, 06:37:22 PM »

If we're defining war as only against state actors, I'm guessing not. I can't think of a circumstance right now where there'd be much to gain from that.
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« Reply #4 on: October 26, 2016, 06:50:03 PM »

It Trump wins  - no.
If Hillary wind  - two
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« Reply #5 on: October 26, 2016, 07:55:58 PM »

I fully expect us to go to war on the ground in Iraq and Syria under President Clinton as well as a dangerously close confrontation with Russia that teeters on nuclear war. Probably because we meddle in the Ukraine or shoot down their planes over Syria or something.
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« Reply #6 on: October 26, 2016, 10:00:25 PM »

Maybe something on the scale of Libya, but nothing on the level of Iraq or Afghanistan.
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« Reply #7 on: October 26, 2016, 10:06:13 PM »
« Edited: October 26, 2016, 10:09:08 PM by PiT, South Governor »

I fully expect us to go to war on the ground in Iraq and Syria under President Clinton as well as a dangerously close confrontation with Russia that teeters on nuclear war. Probably because we meddle in the Ukraine or shoot down their planes over Syria or something.

     I more or less agree with this. The odds of some armed conflict are very high. The odds of nuclear war...are quite low but higher than what I'm comfortable with.
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« Reply #8 on: October 27, 2016, 08:16:42 AM »

I have a niggling feeling that military strikes on DPRK's nuclear facilities will be increasingly pushed for in the net decade. ROK, Japan and the US have completely ran out of patience with a diplomatic solution, and ROK is investing in defence. Of course, it all depends on PRC, but they aren't exactly enamoured with Fatty at the moment

I don't think there will be anything as flashy as a no-fly zone in Syria.
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« Reply #9 on: October 27, 2016, 09:12:16 AM »

Military power will undoubtedly be used several times, but a formal war against state(s) in the traditional sense is unlikely IMO. DPRK is in my mind as well, though the fallout from its eventual collapse I don't will be categorized as a war.
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« Reply #10 on: October 27, 2016, 01:53:08 PM »

I have a niggling feeling that military strikes on DPRK's nuclear facilities will be increasingly pushed for in the net decade. ROK, Japan and the US have completely ran out of patience with a diplomatic solution, and ROK is investing in defence. Of course, it all depends on PRC, but they aren't exactly enamoured with Fatty at the moment

I don't think there will be anything as flashy as a no-fly zone in Syria.

Yeah, Korea is probably going to be the next flashpoint when Kim Jong Un finally pushes his luck too far. He doesn't seem to be as smart as his father and grandfather.
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« Reply #11 on: October 27, 2016, 04:58:01 PM »

What does "go to war" mean these days?
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« Reply #12 on: October 27, 2016, 06:04:32 PM »

What does "go to war" mean these days?

IDK, but I was thinking about destabilizing a random Middle East state (for democracy sake, of course) pushing it into a chaos of the civil war.

It's what America does best, no? No problems, Sweden will take them all Cry
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« Reply #13 on: October 28, 2016, 07:08:07 PM »

Not sure, but if we do it will because of Obama's Iran Deal.
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« Reply #14 on: October 29, 2016, 03:45:47 PM »

I can definitely see war becoming inevitable with Iran if we stop the deal with them. What else do we do then?
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« Reply #15 on: October 29, 2016, 04:47:32 PM »

What does "go to war" mean these days?
I dunno, but it seems to always involve oil rich Arab countries.
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« Reply #16 on: October 29, 2016, 05:12:22 PM »

War? Yes. Against a significant, conventional military force? No.
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« Reply #17 on: October 29, 2016, 05:26:15 PM »

As long as we keep electing republicans and democrats, yes.
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« Reply #18 on: October 29, 2016, 05:51:28 PM »

Only if Trump is elected. 
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« Reply #19 on: November 01, 2016, 11:24:57 PM »

Yes (D)

Because Hillary will take a page out of Thatcher's book with the Malvinas and try to prove to everyone that a female President is just as willing to use military force as a man.

Now what that war will be I won't even try to guess.

Okay, maybe those piles of rocks in the Ocean that China is spending millions on to turn into islands.

I also think its interesting that Pence is closer to Hillary on standing up to Putin than Trump is. That could be one issue where Congress, if it is still GOP controlled, might support her. Probably the only issue Tongue
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« Reply #20 on: November 02, 2016, 09:26:11 AM »

this is going to be a very funny post in....lets say, 17 months.
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« Reply #21 on: November 02, 2016, 10:05:18 AM »

this is going to be a very funny post in....lets say, 17 months.
I think it was intended to be trolly, but it really is just ominous.
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