So how long after election does Hillary drop Sanders planks from her agenda?
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« on: October 24, 2016, 05:12:19 PM »

So how long after the election does Hillary drop the more radical and extreme Sanders planks from her agenda?

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« Reply #1 on: October 24, 2016, 05:26:31 PM »

In a nanosecond, if she's elected.

The folks who are in the tank for her are Free-Trade Globalists.  Their bread is buttered on the anti-Sanders side.

Hillary Milhous Clinton.  That's the kind of President she'll be.
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« Reply #2 on: October 24, 2016, 05:31:01 PM »

I think that she now recognizes that the Sanders wing of the Dems is both large and vocal. However, if his agenda proves impossible to pass through Congress (my biggest concern about him in the first place), then I can see parts of it being abandoned.
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« Reply #3 on: October 24, 2016, 05:33:41 PM »

She'll get all she can done, like she's said.
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« Reply #4 on: October 24, 2016, 05:38:06 PM »

Roughly five seconds after her first inaugural address.
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« Reply #5 on: October 24, 2016, 05:39:23 PM »

Which planks are you referring to?
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« Reply #6 on: October 24, 2016, 05:46:16 PM »

I don't really think she is going to on most things, and on things she does, assuming the GOP controls the House, she will probably be cutting deals to get what she can and people will assume that if she caves on anything, like, say to drop the corporate tax rate 5% or so to get loopholes closed that will in turn help pay for her initiatives, people will scream TRAITOR, FLIP-FLOPPER, SHE'S CONSERVATIVE, and so on. In the end, Some will understand what she did and people who always thought she would flip-flop will get their false confirmation they so craved.

But for the record, I think this because I just don't see the political benefit to turning her back on the people. It would hurt her and the party a lot going into 2018/2020, which would put the kibosh on her presidency even more. She is smarter than that. Many conservative policies are no longer popular in this country so there is nothing to be gained by it.
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« Reply #7 on: October 24, 2016, 05:47:40 PM »

How exactly does anything become "dropped"? Platforms often contain particular planks that the candidate themselves don't agree with; there's never a need to formally drop anything. To answer your question, I think Democrat's have become tired of being the only party in our democracy who compromise and work with / reach out to the other side, hence the revival of a firm progressive wing with Sanders. Hillary can throw us over at the side at her own peril; I trust Sanders and Jane to hold her accountable like they said.
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« Reply #8 on: October 24, 2016, 05:48:49 PM »

I don't think she can drop them. Remember Sanders got 43% of the primary vote so she has to throw some bones to the Sanders supporters
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« Reply #9 on: October 24, 2016, 05:50:38 PM »

In a nanosecond, if she's elected.

The folks who are in the tank for her are Free-Trade Globalists.  Their bread is buttered on the anti-Sanders side.

Hillary Milhous Clinton.  That's the kind of President she'll be.
And the Chinese billionaires donating to Trump aren't...?
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« Reply #10 on: October 24, 2016, 05:52:46 PM »

Immediately. They're basically not there now. Any progressive voting for her in the hopes of those policies being enacted, rather than mere to defeat Trump, is about to be severely disappointed.
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« Reply #11 on: October 24, 2016, 05:55:34 PM »

Hillary tried to get Universal Healthcare passed in 1994, way before even a private mandate became such a hot button issue. She won't drop the agenda of the progressive wing of the party  - What would be her legacy if she can't bring in signature legislation
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« Reply #12 on: October 24, 2016, 05:55:55 PM »

Anything remotely progressive will be gone faster than a toupee in a hurricane.
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« Reply #13 on: October 24, 2016, 05:58:01 PM »

Immigration reform will be a priority , education reform would be next. I don't think she will have enough political capital left to improve Obamacare.
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« Reply #14 on: October 24, 2016, 06:04:44 PM »

Hopefully gone before I decide to vote R in 2018.
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« Reply #15 on: October 24, 2016, 06:05:31 PM »

Immediately, if she gets a bad Congress.
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« Reply #16 on: October 24, 2016, 06:09:52 PM »

Hillary will do nothing to renegotiate any existing trade agreements, and will find some pretext to support TPP.

Hillary will do nothing substantive to "reform" large financial institutions; they are too much in her camp as it is.

The far-left social agenda will stay.  The economic agenda will be moderately conservative at most. 
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« Reply #17 on: October 24, 2016, 06:10:32 PM »

This must be some form of bargaining during grief.
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« Reply #18 on: October 24, 2016, 06:13:51 PM »

In a nanosecond, if she's elected.

The folks who are in the tank for her are Free-Trade Globalists.  Their bread is buttered on the anti-Sanders side.

Hillary Milhous Clinton.  That's the kind of President she'll be.

It's frankly adorable you think Hillary with Congressional Democrats to deal with is somehow less genuine about her opposition to free trade than Donald Trump, who'd have Congressional Republicans to deal with and made a fortune off of outsourcing and has given us ZERO reason to trust anything he says, LOL.

Actually, I take that back: it's sad.
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« Reply #19 on: October 24, 2016, 06:24:26 PM »

It very much depends on how Democrats do in the Senate and the House. Hillary thinks in terms of what's politically realistic, not what she would actually like to do. I'm sure if she had her way we'd have a single payer system but she's not going to push for it given the long record of that particular policy's failure to be enacted in the U.S.

I do think Hillary aligns far more closely with Bernie on domestic policy than trade and foreign policy though.
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« Reply #20 on: October 24, 2016, 06:26:19 PM »

Hillary will do nothing to renegotiate any existing trade agreements, and will find some pretext to support TPP.

Hillary will do nothing substantive to "reform" large financial institutions; they are too much in her camp as it is.

The far-left social agenda will stay.  The economic agenda will be moderately conservative at most. 
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« Reply #21 on: October 24, 2016, 06:49:48 PM »

Hillary will do nothing to renegotiate any existing trade agreements, and will find some pretext to support TPP.

Hillary will do nothing substantive to "reform" large financial institutions; they are too much in her camp as it is.

The far-left social agenda will stay.  The economic agenda will be moderately conservative at most. 
Good.

Can't decide who's more duped, you or Fuzzy Bear.
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« Reply #22 on: October 24, 2016, 06:51:22 PM »

Hillary will do nothing to renegotiate any existing trade agreements, and will find some pretext to support TPP.

Hillary will do nothing substantive to "reform" large financial institutions; they are too much in her camp as it is.

The far-left social agenda will stay.  The economic agenda will be moderately conservative at most. 
Good.

Can't decide who's more duped, you or Fuzzy Bear.
Whenever people scaremonger using free trade or globalism, I do that to mess with them
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« Reply #23 on: October 24, 2016, 09:43:06 PM »

TPP opposition: immediately
The rest: too early to tell
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« Reply #24 on: October 24, 2016, 09:45:47 PM »

So is Atlas still clinging to the myth that Hillary is a closet right winger? Some of you need to get a grip.
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