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« on: October 24, 2016, 05:32:26 PM »

Let's say it's election night, and for whatever reason you're distracted from paying any attention to the election results. But then you hear your first tidbit of results: Hillary has won the state of __________. After hearing this, you know Hillary has a very likely chance of winning all 50 states.

Which state would this be?



(A year or two ago, I would have said Utah or Texas... but now Utah is a swing state, and Hillary is only behind 4 points in Texas...)
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« Reply #1 on: October 24, 2016, 05:32:59 PM »

West Virginia, obviously.
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« Reply #2 on: October 24, 2016, 05:33:05 PM »

You know the answer to this is West Virginia.
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« Reply #3 on: October 24, 2016, 05:34:02 PM »
« Edited: October 24, 2016, 05:35:40 PM by @realJohnEwards »

AL/OK, given that they would probably guarantee her a sizable portion of Southern whites (and WV whites are among the more liberal Southern whites, while AL and OK whites are much more inelastic and conservative).
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« Reply #4 on: October 24, 2016, 05:34:17 PM »

Oklahoma. West Virginia's more elastic.
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« Reply #5 on: October 24, 2016, 05:36:52 PM »

Her husband won WV, so I'll go with Oklahoma.
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« Reply #6 on: October 24, 2016, 05:39:14 PM »

Iowa.  This would mean her deficit w/ non college white either collapsed, or the turnout operations were so vastly different that she was able to overcome a negative lreference with a key statewide cohort.

Iowa may not mean ohio is also won, but I think it would mean the rest if the midwest held.  Therefore, she is president without knowing any particulars about my state, nc, az, nv, co or nh
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« Reply #7 on: October 24, 2016, 05:49:23 PM »

One of these states would be Idaho.
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« Reply #8 on: October 24, 2016, 05:53:33 PM »

Donald and Bill are similar in some ways, actually.
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« Reply #9 on: October 24, 2016, 05:55:59 PM »

Alabama.  It's so inelastic that I think it would be the holdout in a 49-state Clinton landslide.
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« Reply #10 on: October 24, 2016, 05:58:38 PM »

Any one of Oklahoma, Alabama and West Virginia. She isn't going to win any of these
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« Reply #11 on: October 24, 2016, 05:58:44 PM »

Iowa.  This would mean her deficit w/ non college white either collapsed, or the turnout operations were so vastly different that she was able to overcome a negative lreference with a key statewide cohort.

Iowa may not mean ohio is also won, but I think it would mean the rest if the midwest held.  Therefore, she is president without knowing any particulars about my state, nc, az, nv, co or nh
You misread this thread.
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« Reply #12 on: October 24, 2016, 05:58:52 PM »

Alabama.  It's so inelastic that I think it would be the holdout in a 49-state Clinton landslide.
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« Reply #13 on: October 24, 2016, 06:02:09 PM »

It would have to be somewhere that the polls close early, and called quickly so we can predict what happens elsewhere. West Virginia would probably be really close, and so unlikely to be decided until right at the end. So I reckon South Carolina, if its called for Clinton straight away when polls close, that will indicate something huuuuuuuuge is up.

Or maybe Kentucky, I don't think we've seen a poll there in a while, but it has to be one of Trump's top-10 states, so if that gets called quick then that would surely indicate the landslide is coming.

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« Reply #14 on: October 24, 2016, 06:04:22 PM »

West Virginia
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« Reply #15 on: October 24, 2016, 06:06:48 PM »

Oklahoma.
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« Reply #16 on: October 24, 2016, 06:54:58 PM »

Alabama.
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« Reply #17 on: October 24, 2016, 06:58:54 PM »

WYOMING.

seems like the absolute traditional and partisan republican state.
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« Reply #18 on: October 24, 2016, 07:06:57 PM »

Oklahoma
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« Reply #19 on: October 24, 2016, 07:08:41 PM »

WYOMING.
seems like the absolute traditional and partisan republican state.

Nah. If she really wins it, it could could be explained with the relative high Mormon population.
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« Reply #20 on: October 24, 2016, 07:09:53 PM »

West Virginia, maybe Oklahoma.
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« Reply #21 on: October 24, 2016, 07:25:48 PM »

Idaho
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« Reply #22 on: October 24, 2016, 08:36:18 PM »

AL/OK, given that they would probably guarantee her a sizable portion of Southern whites (and WV whites are among the more liberal Southern whites, while AL and OK whites are much more inelastic and conservative).

Agreed - and I'd say Alabama. That said, if we knew of no other state result besides Hillary winning AL (or OK or WV), I still think it's unlikely that Hillary would win 50, partially due to non-uniform trends.
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« Reply #23 on: October 24, 2016, 08:55:12 PM »


Nah. If she wins Idaho it is due to McMullin.
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« Reply #24 on: October 24, 2016, 08:58:09 PM »

Oklahoma.

West Virginia would indicate WCWs lost their faith in Trump and want to give the new, renewable energy economy a shot.  Doesn't necessarily mean Hillary won every state.

Alabama would indicate depressed white turnout and lots of African American enthusiasm for Clinton.  Also that Trump lost the Bible Belt because of his horrible behavior.  Doesn't necessarily mean Hillary won every state.

Wyoming could have been spoiled by Johnson, and Idaho could have been spoiled by McMuffin.

But if Oklahoma goes blue, that's a fundamental shift that means Hillary is winning 65-30 nationwide.  Every state would fall to her.
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