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« on: October 24, 2016, 11:29:01 PM »

http://www.vox.com/first-person/2016/10/19/13310016/jill-stein-millennial-voter

I won't even point out the ridiculous special snowflake title and instead point to this:
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OMG, PLEASE SHUT THE F[INKS] UP, HOW ON EARTH DO YOU EXPECT ANYONE TO TAKE YOU SERIOUSLY AFTER SAYING THAT?!
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« Reply #1 on: October 25, 2016, 08:50:27 AM »

Hillary has pretty consistently spoken to intersectionality. She just doesn't brand it using the obvious buzzwords that a stupid idiot Marxist would need to hear in order to understand.

Also, doesn't Marxism hold that intersecting elements of identity and the politics of difference are "superstructure" stuff? That they are just window dressings, and that they all result from the "base" of a person's position in the chain of production?

I'm going to go out on a limb and say that he hasn't studied Marxism very deeply.

How many "Marxists" today have?
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« Reply #2 on: October 25, 2016, 10:41:02 PM »

Thank god I graduated college just as this sh*t was starting to take off.  I prophesized that the backlash would reach full swing after the election was over and these complete idiots weren't needed anymore and the Democrats could fess up to being revolted by them, we'll see whether that plays out.

The cancer in the Democratic party isn't as malignant and metastasized as in the Republican party, but they have the same problem of greedy, amoral media outlets preying on the fears and egos of an easily-misled young base to profit off of political outrage, compounded by a ridiculous number of activist organizations that take advantage of these fools to gain personal fame and fortune.  Black Lives Matter is the Democratic Party's Tea Party movement... a core of irrational, angry people behaving terribly and pushing an agenda that, while it has some sensible tentposts, is ultimately ridiculous and based on, again, a small kernel of truth buried by a bushel of inflammatory lies; the whole party has been bullied into latching onto it and agreeing with everything the movement says because of the political blackmail it wields, and it's starting to suck up more and more of the base and shuttle them through the stages of indoctrination until they reach the most extreme depths, and then work their way backward from there until they find a degree of radicalism that they can be comfortable with.

All the liberals on here will surely say I'm a horrible, Trumpian racist for posting this and whine on the worst posts thread and AAD, but deep down you know I'm right.  Something is very wrong in the Democratic Party when these kinds of people are flourishing, and the fact that they're now abandoning the party for third parties or Bernie-inspired revolutionary stubbornness is only a symptom of a problem the party has allowed to blossom within itself for years.  American politics needs to have a reckoning with this new media that saturates our lives, appealing to our basest instincts to guide us down the path of self-delusion, outrage and irrationality.  Trump has already been a blaring, loud wake-up call for the Republicans, and we're already seeing editorials trying to figure out what went wrong.  I hate to think about what the wake-up call for the Democrats will be.

Damn good post here. Hopefully this wake-up call isn't Hillary starting WW3.

Well she plans to implement a no fly zone over Syria so if a Russian plane comes by...

She already said this was to happen through negotiation with Russia, not from one day to another, which is what you're implying.

It seems that the negotiations so far aren't going so well when they keep using Russia as a scapegoat when confronted about their own emails. Roll Eyes

Don't be obtuse. You know well that that's not even on the table right now given she's not president at this moment. All intelligence agencies are pointing towards Russia so the blame has to fall where it may.

Clinton is a hawk. She was in the past, she is today and she will be once President. Russia is currently bombing the sh*t out of Aleppo with their ally Syria, what makes you think that's going to stop if Clinton gets involved? Your a hack for Clinton but you need to learn to be more objective. You know your allowed to criticize your candidate right? Especially when around 2/3 of Americans don't trust her... making her out to be this amazing wonder woman is hurting your cause more than helping.

Sorry, not a hack. I voted to Bernie in the primaries, and I see her flaws. But that also makes me recognize her strengths in diplomacy, policy making, and foreign experience. When facing Trump, it's a no contest for me.

I think she has done some amazing things and has withstood far more than a great number of people would have been able to. I'm giving her a chance that, I think, is well earned.

Ah a former Bernie lad, kind of downgraded yourself didn't ya? Getting money out of politics to one of the most corrupt money grabbing politicians.

Skip the condescension or you might as well forget about any future responses. I have treated you with respect, and I expect the same out of you towards me.

HRC has always been against Citizens United and embraced a lot of Bernie's platform. I look forward to seeing how she goes about implementing these platform ideas.

You basically told me to stop being ignorant and dumb so how i respond to your own condescension should be no concern to you. Now to get back to substance. Citizens united is just the tip of the iceberg, remember the financial crisis happened before the supreme court decision. Now Clinton says she will push to get rid of citizens united....which i find laughable since the current system has helped the Clinton's greatly but hey maybe your right and she will fight against it even if it results in less campaign donations. I would't hold my breath on that one.  To bring back some type of lawlessness with the financial sector you need to re-implement Glass-Steagall. This will never happen under a Clinton administration.

I basically told you to respect people who respect you. If you feel identified with those adjectives that is all you.

She has commented multiple times that, because of the nature of the system, she has to participate in what Citizens United allows so that she can remain competitive in a presidential election. I support her on this, and I will provide an example when a candidate didn't do something similar and lost.

In 2010, then Wisconsin Senator Feingold protested the influx of out-of-state funding for local elections. As an active sign of resistance, he refused to use external funding and ended up narrowly losing the seat to the current horrible Senator Johnson.

The word obtuse implies all those objectives Roll Eyes

You must know your wrong, you can't be competitive in elections unless you sell out? Bernie kind of proved everyone wrong with that this year. Also your example is a midterm? This is 2016 not 2010, at that time the Democrats controlled everything, and the republicans had a pretty big landslide.

What you are saying however is Russ lost because he protested out of state funding for local elections even though a majority of Americans oppose that as well. No, that's not why. The winner in State and local elections almost always win because of $$$, the candidate with the most money wins 95% of the time.

Feingold only lost by 4.8% to Johnson and is about to get back the seat he lost and he's still talking about money in politics. While in that same year someone named Blanche lost by 21% while taking all kinds of money from special interests and is now a lobbyist.

LMAO, you have Trump winning Dakota, Washington and Olmsted counties.
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« Reply #3 on: October 25, 2016, 11:35:57 PM »

Seriously, not only do we basically have a poll from Dakota County (The MN-02 poll), but Olmsted is one of the worst imaginable places for Trump. It's the epitome of an educated, white collar place. There's no conceivable way Olmsted could actually swing towards Trump.
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« Reply #4 on: October 25, 2016, 11:50:28 PM »

My biggest problem with intersectionalism by the way, isn't so much the very concept of it, which is quite valid, but the fact that for whatever reason, almost all people who call themselves intersectionalist feminists care far more about stupid nonsense like this instead of actual serious issues that face women and minorities today.
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I spent the winter writing songs about getting better
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Posts: 113,070
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Political Matrix
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« Reply #5 on: October 29, 2016, 12:08:12 AM »

Something that just hit me, but how can the idiot who wrote the article linked the OP talk about intersectionality and then describe himself as a radical feminist?

Because true radical feminists are not intersectionalists. They are viciously transphobic, as bad as the most bigoted right-winger, and do things like condemn lesbians who use strap-ons as promoting the patriarchy and rape culture.
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