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« Reply #25 on: October 26, 2016, 09:55:21 AM »

Only in alternative-history scenarios which people start to write as science fiction beginning on November 9.
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« Reply #26 on: October 26, 2016, 10:21:47 AM »

Only in alternative-history scenarios which people start to write as science fiction beginning on November 9.

And it will be dismissed as Alien Space Bats.
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« Reply #27 on: October 26, 2016, 12:03:33 PM »

Tschah, all this "I know Hillary's going to win, but..." nonsense gets my goat. There is no inevitability for a Trump comeback; even Trump himself seems to believe it's over and is more interested in setting the ground for his media endeavour, whatever that may turn out to be. The Republicans are running round like headless chickens, now talking about losing the House (they won't), diverting much-needed funds to prop up races here, there and everywhere, in a nationwide game of whack-a-mole. Notwithstanding some outliers there has been nothing but good polling news for Clinton since the third debate. The number of undecideds has declined, as has the Johnson/Stein vote. Eleven million votes have already been cast, with apparently mostly good news for the Dems.

The problem is this race has now become 'normal' where it was crazy before. We've become so used to the news cycle lasting an hour at a time that we can't accept there won't be an astonishing development every day from now on. In your average presidential campaign, the next two weeks would bring nothing very surprising between now and election day. There's no reason why this can't now be an average presidential campaign. No one was talking about a Dole comeback at the end of October 1996.
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« Reply #28 on: October 26, 2016, 12:42:14 PM »

The narrative started before the tapes even came out, but the reality of President Clinton won't change. I do think that Clinton is still going to be held under 50% at this point, and I don't think GA, AZ, UT, or TX will be flipped (certainly too close to comfort).

In the end, the Trump "comeback" will be when he comes closer to the Presidency than alleged reasonable Republicans like John McCain or Mitt Romney will. The election was won for me when Trump took Indiana and the nomination anyways.
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« Reply #29 on: October 26, 2016, 12:45:37 PM »

doubtful but anything is possible
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« Reply #30 on: October 26, 2016, 01:12:21 PM »

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« Reply #31 on: October 26, 2016, 01:18:44 PM »

Yes. Trump Comeback Narrative is starting and it is real.
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« Reply #32 on: October 26, 2016, 02:26:09 PM »

Trump comeback narrative went away--no matter how he does in the polls it's treated like a comeback by the media.
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« Reply #33 on: October 26, 2016, 02:30:59 PM »

Yeah, it's starting. Whether or not it's a true narrative is a different question.
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« Reply #34 on: October 26, 2016, 02:34:53 PM »

This entire thread is already the "comeback narrative" some of you so desperately fear.
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« Reply #35 on: October 26, 2016, 04:20:58 PM »

Lol.
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« Reply #36 on: October 26, 2016, 04:25:26 PM »

This entire thread is already the "comeback narrative" some of you so desperately fear.

Thank you!
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« Reply #37 on: October 26, 2016, 04:27:55 PM »

Donald Trump needs to enjoy a much faster comeback RATE from 14-15% to win on election day.

The Donald suffered two very bad moments in the campaign.

Shortly after the first debate, and July 31st.

One is the pussy grabbing moment which would sink any candidate, but I don't know what happened on July 31 to make Trump drop like a lead balloon.

Donalds' rate of recovery at the moment is simply too slow to make the November 8 deadline.

Trump's like a high school boy trying to do his homework at 5am in the morning.

Donald left his entire project to the last minute, and the teacher is not going to give him any credit as he has a history of bullying and sexual indiscretion with the other girls in the class.

One thing is for sure. The pussy grabber footage was timed to perfection by the Democrats.
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« Reply #38 on: October 26, 2016, 04:29:39 PM »

Donald Trump needs to enjoy a much faster comeback RATE from 14-15% to win on election day.

The Donald suffered two very bad moments in the campaign.

Shortly after the first debate, and July 31st.

One is the pussy grabbing moment which would sink any candidate, but I don't know what happened on July 31 to make Trump drop like a lead balloon.

Donalds' rate of recovery at the moment is simply too slow to make the November 8 deadline.

Trump's like a high school boy trying to do his homework at 5am in the morning.

Donald left his entire project to the last minute, and the teacher is not going to give him any credit as he has a history of bullying and sexual indiscretion with the other girls in the class.

One thing is for sure. The pussy grabber footage was timed to perfection by the Democrats.


July 31 and early August was the Dem post convention bump
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« Reply #39 on: October 26, 2016, 05:05:35 PM »

The complacency of the Democrats on this thread disturbs me.

Trump's campaign has the stench of defeat about it (when he mentioned term limits for the first time that's when I knew), but that has never bothered the GOP/Independent electorate before. As for the media, they enjoy the smell; it gives them something entertaining to report at 3 AM.

More to the point, it's not even about "winning" -- as long as Clinton leads in PA and WI then she "wins" -- so much as winning by a margin that grants her an electoral mandate and a "100 Days" to establish Clinton as a president in her own right and not just a slipshod workaround to Obama's third term.

A Trump turnaround strong enough to lead to a sub 300-EV win and a Senate still held by the GOP is no win at all for the Democrats, a Pyrrhic victory.
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« Reply #40 on: October 26, 2016, 05:11:54 PM »

The complacency of the Democrats on this thread disturbs me.

Trump's campaign has the stench of defeat about it (when he mentioned term limits for the first time that's when I knew), but that has never bothered the GOP/Independent electorate before. As for the media, they enjoy the smell; it gives them something entertaining to report at 3 AM.

More to the point, it's not even about "winning" -- as long as Clinton leads in PA and WI then she "wins" -- so much as winning by a margin that grants her an electoral mandate and a "100 Days" to establish Clinton as a president in her own right and not just a slipshod workaround to Obama's third term.

A Trump turnaround strong enough to lead to a sub 300-EV win and a Senate still held by the GOP is no win at all for the Democrats, a Pyrrhic victory.

I don't disagree. But if the alternative to complacency is misplaced blind panic, then sign me up for complacency. BOTH are dangerously counter-productive. The polling is not reflecting the data we have so far, and when you have one campaign with a formidable ground game and another without one ... seriously people.
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« Reply #41 on: October 26, 2016, 05:20:58 PM »

But don't worry Dems.

You know very well Trump can't stay focused for more than three hours before he flies off the handle again.
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« Reply #42 on: October 26, 2016, 05:23:38 PM »

But don't worry Dems.

You know very well Trump can't stay focused for more than three hours before he flies off the handle again.

Or a big time piece of oppo research is going to drop very soon against Trump
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« Reply #43 on: October 26, 2016, 07:08:58 PM »

On CNN: "CLINTON LEAD SHRINKS IN NEW NATIONAL POLLING"

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« Reply #44 on: October 26, 2016, 07:13:07 PM »

On CNN: "CLINTON LEAD SHRINKS IN NEW NATIONAL POLLING"

ffs

It proves that CNN is full of Dems. So bedwetting Cheesy
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« Reply #45 on: October 26, 2016, 07:14:39 PM »

maybe but even more full of rating-addicted horse-race-fanatics.
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« Reply #46 on: October 26, 2016, 10:45:10 PM »

Yes. Trump Comeback Narrative is starting and it is real.


It's unlikely that Trump will win the popular vote, but he may carry the EV running 1-2 points behind Clinton. 
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« Reply #47 on: October 27, 2016, 08:45:35 AM »

Yes. Trump Comeback Narrative is starting and it is real.


It's unlikely that Trump will win the popular vote, but he may carry the EV running 1-2 points behind Clinton. 

He needs to get within 1% to have a shot at CO, PA, or MI one of which he will need.  WI and NH are off the table without a PV win of more than 1%.
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« Reply #48 on: October 27, 2016, 09:13:50 AM »

In the 538 average, he has gain .8% points in the last 10 days. He has 10 days left.
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« Reply #49 on: October 27, 2016, 12:10:40 PM »
« Edited: October 27, 2016, 12:12:59 PM by TheDeadFlagBlues »

Every piece of data that isn't a poll suggests that Clinton is going to incinerate Trump. For instance, Democrats have led VBM returns in Colorado every day so far and this is a historic achievement that's totally unprecedented. Everywhere around the country, liberals are more engaged and more likely to vote. This isn't even a function of Clinton's groundgame: whether we're talking about Washington or California or Texas, the people who are most likely to be the first to mail their ballots in or the first to get in line to vote early are middle-aged to old white liberals. For this to happen across the board is insane, legendary, historic etc. I've never seen this before.

Quit wetting the bed! The odds of Clinton outperforming her already strong polling figures are very, very high. If the race stays stable from here on out, Clinton will probably win by 10 percentage points or so because Democrats are more motivated to vote this year and, on top of this, Clinton has a groundgame.
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