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« Reply #50 on: July 06, 2005, 04:41:33 PM »

.  Anyway right now we have  2 polls which are MORE RECENT than the poll you cite.  I tend to go by the most recent polls & when a bunch of polls come out within a short period of time take the average of the polls.  You for some reason seem to be so wrapped up in this 2 and a half month old Quinnipiac poll, when we have newer polls that are out that show a different result than the old poll you ignore them, I wonder why.....

Two more recent polls? Where? The only one that was noted was the one SurveryUSA poll.

I am "so wrapped up" in the Quinnipiac polls because they are the most accurate polls in the area. There's a reason why almost everyone in PA politics follows Quinnipiac, Smash.

And, once again, you have only presented ONE other poll and the results are as drastically different as you think!

Survey USA did TWO seperate Polls

One in May, one in June.  His approval in May was 44% with a 38% disapproval, it June it was 45% approval 44% disapproval.  He had the 7th lowest approval rating in May & 10th highest disapproval in May, in June he had the 8th lowest approval & the highest disapproval

Links, please.

This was posted a few weeks ago, you should have sen it, but maybe you chose to ignore it because others mentioned how bad it was for Santorum.  Anyway it shows the results for both May & June

http://www.surveyusa.com/100USSenatorApprovalRatings061305.htm
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« Reply #51 on: July 06, 2005, 04:43:12 PM »

but maybe you chose to ignore it because others mentioned how bad it was for Santorum.

http://www.surveyusa.com/100USSenatorApprovalRatings061305.htm

Why would I ask for the links if I am choosing to ignore this? I remember one poll and not the other.

Another question: Why are you so dumb? (That is a serious question, too.)
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« Reply #52 on: July 06, 2005, 04:48:05 PM »

but maybe you chose to ignore it because others mentioned how bad it was for Santorum.

http://www.surveyusa.com/100USSenatorApprovalRatings061305.htm

Why would I ask for the links if I am choosing to ignore this? I remember one poll and not the other.

Another question: Why are you so dumb? (That is a serious question, too.)

Meant that you were ignoring it before, when the news first broke about his approval dropping in mid June.  Both Survey USA polls were on the same page, the same links all along.  So if you looked at the links when the story first came out you would have seen both polls since this was the link that was posted in multipile threads on Santorum
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« Reply #53 on: July 06, 2005, 04:49:04 PM »

What do the Rasmussen polls show?
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« Reply #54 on: July 06, 2005, 04:51:56 PM »


Their have been none as far as I know
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« Reply #55 on: July 06, 2005, 04:52:08 PM »

Interesting stuff.

According to SurveyUSA...

Santorum's approval amongst women is higher than his approval amongst men.

24% of Republicans disapprove of him. Better yet, 26% of conservatives disapprove of him.

Southeastern PA has a 46% disapproval of Santorum but 40% approve. I think a six point difference is too good to be true for Santorum here.

Best part! The T, PA's most conservative area, gave Santorum a 49% approval rating while 42% disapproved!

I'm hesitant towards believing this poll.
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« Reply #56 on: July 06, 2005, 04:54:26 PM »


Meant that you were ignoring it before, when the news first broke about his approval dropping in mid June.  Both Survey USA polls were on the same page, the same links all along.  So if you looked at the links when the story first came out you would have seen both polls since this was the link that was posted in multipile threads on Santorum

I never noticed the May poll. I've seen the details on the June poll before (see my recent comments on how much of a joke it was). If I was to ignore a poll, why would I ignore the poll that showed my candidate doing better?
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« Reply #57 on: July 06, 2005, 04:55:31 PM »


I highly doubt they know the extent of his extremism.

Let the Casey campaign make Santorum the issue of this campaign. Let them go negative. If they like the MoveOn folks run the show, Santorum wins the race.



Casey does not have the poltical expirience, nor the convienence, of not allowing himself to be rolled over by the Moveon's and Howard Dean.  You watch.  When this campaign is over, you won't be able to tell the difference from Casey and Kennedy.
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« Reply #58 on: July 06, 2005, 04:55:39 PM »

Interesting stuff.

According to SurveyUSA...

Santorum's approval amongst women is higher than his approval amongst men.

24% of Republicans disapprove of him. Better yet, 26% of conservatives disapprove of him.

Southeastern PA has a 46% disapproval of Santorum but 40% approve. I think a six point difference is too good to be true for Santorum here.

Best part! The T, PA's most conservative area, gave Santorum a 49% approval rating while 42% disapproved!

I'm hesitant towards believing this poll.

Internals tend to even themselves out.  When you go into some of the internals, the sample size is obviously going to be smaller.  His approval is obviously higher in the T, but at the same time its obviously lower in SE PA
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« Reply #59 on: July 06, 2005, 04:56:28 PM »


Casey does not have the poltical expirience, nor the convienence, of not allowing himself to be rolled over by the Moveon's and Howard Dean.  You watch.  When this campaign is over, you won't be able to tell the difference from Casey and Kennedy.

What?
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« Reply #60 on: July 06, 2005, 04:57:35 PM »


Meant that you were ignoring it before, when the news first broke about his approval dropping in mid June.  Both Survey USA polls were on the same page, the same links all along.  So if you looked at the links when the story first came out you would have seen both polls since this was the link that was posted in multipile threads on Santorum

I never noticed the May poll. I've seen the details on the June poll before (see my recent comments on how much of a joke it was). If I was to ignore a poll, why would I ignore the poll that showed my candidate doing better?


As stated above the internals don't mean that much (especially when it comes down to portions of the state)  because the sample sizes tend to be smaller there, but they tend to even themselcves out statewide because of how the poll is put together
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« Reply #61 on: July 06, 2005, 04:58:02 PM »


I highly doubt they know the extent of his extremism.

Let the Casey campaign make Santorum the issue of this campaign. Let them go negative. If they like the MoveOn folks run the show, Santorum wins the race.



Casey does not have the poltical expirience, nor the convienence, of not allowing himself to be rolled over by the Moveon's and Howard Dean.  You watch.  When this campaign is over, you won't be able to tell the difference from Casey and Kennedy.

I know there is a good chance that Dean and MoveOn will "move on" in to the state and take over. That's a bright area for the Santorum campaign.
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« Reply #62 on: July 07, 2005, 12:49:14 AM »


I highly doubt they know the extent of his extremism.

Let the Casey campaign make Santorum the issue of this campaign. Let them go negative. If they like the MoveOn folks run the show, Santorum wins the race.



Casey does not have the poltical expirience, nor the convienence, of not allowing himself to be rolled over by the Moveon's and Howard Dean.  You watch.  When this campaign is over, you won't be able to tell the difference from Casey and Kennedy.

I know there is a good chance that Dean and MoveOn will "move on" in to the state and take over. That's a bright area for the Santorum campaign.

I hope so, MoveOn did a pretty good job at delivering PA to Kerry.

Phil, like it or not, of course quotes from this book are going to be taken out of context and used against him. His comments on stay at home moms may single-handedly kill him in the Philly burbs. My mother, a staunch Republican working mom (has never voted for a Democrat for state or national office) is actually pissed off at Santorum and has told me there is no chance he will get her vote.

I admit Santorum has some pretty big balls. But he needs to keep those balls in his pants, or Casey is going to cut them off come election time.
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« Reply #63 on: July 07, 2005, 12:50:46 AM »


I highly doubt they know the extent of his extremism.

Let the Casey campaign make Santorum the issue of this campaign. Let them go negative. If they like the MoveOn folks run the show, Santorum wins the race.



Casey does not have the poltical expirience, nor the convienence, of not allowing himself to be rolled over by the Moveon's and Howard Dean.  You watch.  When this campaign is over, you won't be able to tell the difference from Casey and Kennedy.

Point being? I sure hope they compare Casey to Kerry, that will really help him in the Philly burbs where he needs it.
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« Reply #64 on: July 07, 2005, 12:51:52 AM »

Interesting stuff.

According to SurveyUSA...

Santorum's approval amongst women is higher than his approval amongst men.

24% of Republicans disapprove of him. Better yet, 26% of conservatives disapprove of him.

Southeastern PA has a 46% disapproval of Santorum but 40% approve. I think a six point difference is too good to be true for Santorum here.

Best part! The T, PA's most conservative area, gave Santorum a 49% approval rating while 42% disapproved!

I'm hesitant towards believing this poll.

Looks about right. Santorum isn't super-popular in this area, actually.
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« Reply #65 on: July 07, 2005, 01:06:08 AM »


I highly doubt they know the extent of his extremism.

Let the Casey campaign make Santorum the issue of this campaign. Let them go negative. If they like the MoveOn folks run the show, Santorum wins the race.



Casey does not have the poltical expirience, nor the convienence, of not allowing himself to be rolled over by the Moveon's and Howard Dean.  You watch.  When this campaign is over, you won't be able to tell the difference from Casey and Kennedy.

I know there is a good chance that Dean and MoveOn will "move on" in to the state and take over. That's a bright area for the Santorum campaign.

I hope so, MoveOn did a pretty good job at delivering PA to Kerry.

Phil, like it or not, of course quotes from this book are going to be taken out of context and used against him. His comments on stay at home moms may single-handedly kill him in the Philly burbs. My mother, a staunch Republican working mom (has never voted for a Democrat for state or national office) is actually pissed off at Santorum and has told me there is no chance he will get her vote.

I admit Santorum has some pretty big balls. But he needs to keep those balls in his pants, or Casey is going to cut them off come election time.

Him also trying to score points on the Terri Schiavo tragedy didn't help either.
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« Reply #66 on: July 07, 2005, 02:00:00 AM »


I hope so, MoveOn did a pretty good job at delivering PA to Kerry.

Comparing how PA voted in the national election and how it votes in other races is like comparing apples and oranges. Pennsylvanians would easily overlook what MoveOn has to say with Presidential stuff but when it hits closer to home, it'll be a different story.

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« Reply #67 on: July 07, 2005, 03:19:07 AM »


I hope so, MoveOn did a pretty good job at delivering PA to Kerry.

Comparing how PA voted in the national election and how it votes in other races is like comparing apples and oranges. Pennsylvanians would easily overlook what MoveOn has to say with Presidential stuff but when it hits closer to home, it'll be a different story.



It could help though.  Casey's populist appeal alone will help him out West even with Moveon.  Moveon could help bring out the Casey vote in SE PA
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« Reply #68 on: July 07, 2005, 01:21:38 PM »

  Moveon could help bring out the Casey vote in SE PA

Not with some moderate Republicans. Look at my bullmoose example.
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« Reply #69 on: July 07, 2005, 03:49:22 PM »

Exactly why the extreme-right is to be feared. 

An ultra-liberal America: gay marriage and marijuana

An ultra-conservative America: totalitarianism based on the moral views of it's leaders
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« Reply #70 on: July 07, 2005, 04:13:16 PM »

Exactly why the extreme-right is to be feared. 

An ultra-liberal America: gay marriage and marijuana

An ultra-conservative America: totalitarianism based on the moral views of it's leaders
An ultra-liberal America would also involve socialism.
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« Reply #71 on: July 07, 2005, 05:38:07 PM »

Exactly why the extreme-right is to be feared. 

An ultra-liberal America: gay marriage and marijuana

An ultra-conservative America: totalitarianism based on the moral views of it's leaders
You forgot no guns, rampant crime, socialism, communism, possibly even fascism.
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« Reply #72 on: July 07, 2005, 05:40:16 PM »

Exactly why the extreme-right is to be feared. 

An ultra-liberal America: gay marriage and marijuana

An ultra-conservative America: totalitarianism based on the moral views of it's leaders
You forgot no guns, rampant crime, socialism, communism, possibly even fascism.

Much of the left doesn't favor new national gun laws.
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« Reply #73 on: July 07, 2005, 05:41:49 PM »

Exactly why the extreme-right is to be feared. 

An ultra-liberal America: gay marriage and marijuana

An ultra-conservative America: totalitarianism based on the moral views of it's leaders
You forgot no guns, rampant crime, socialism, communism, possibly even fascism.

Much of the left doesn't favor new national gun laws.
Much of the right doesn't favour totalitarianism.
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« Reply #74 on: July 07, 2005, 05:45:32 PM »

Exactly why the extreme-right is to be feared. 

An ultra-liberal America: gay marriage and marijuana

An ultra-conservative America: totalitarianism based on the moral views of it's leaders
You forgot no guns, rampant crime, socialism, communism, possibly even fascism.

Much of the left doesn't favor new national gun laws.
Much of the right doesn't favour totalitarianism.
Yeah, they're just freedom lovers with totalitarian leanings.
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