You should have listened

[Lumine]

Now, Bore, you are a man worthy of a lot of respect, and someone whom I believe most of Atlasia admired as a Senator - indeed I was openly supportive of your hard work as PPT when I was President -, but forgive me if I look upon this statement of yours with sincere skepticism.

Mind you, perhaps it's because I don't enter the IRC and have not heard such "mendacious slander" myself, but I distinctly remember a consensus that went beyond parties that frankly did not see the Bore Administration as active and supported by strong leadership. Indeed, the list of critics at the time extended from Yankee, Cris, Truman, Kalwejt and many others, coupled with approval ratings that at their lowest were of 14% and by the end that Administration was over a mere 30%.

A President is never solely responsible for Atlasia and for the overall course of activity, but he is a crucial factor in making the difference. And strong leadership we lacked during those months, considering we had to endure an Attorney General going rogue, the Vice-President escaping to Cuba, a Communist revolution in the streets and many talented cabinet officeholders resigning in protest of what they saw was inadequate leadership and an Administration that could have done much more to be more present and simply wasn't there.

It is easy to say many just wanted to "tinker with the deck chairs", but nevertheless it was a large portion of conservatives who openly and enthusiastically backed the calls for a Constitutional Convention, being a full part of the process and one of the reasons why the entire process worked out in the end with the game surviving, if perhaps not in the shape some may have dreamed at some point.

So forgive me if I find this sudden self-rightheousness a bit surprising, and the claims of a coup frankly amusing considering we have a Supreme Court actively looking into the recent court cases to solve matters in a legal, efficient and swift way.

Rewriting the past may be a common thing on recent months regarding administrations and public figures, but we cannot address as slander the opinion of the vast majority of Atlasians during those months in 2015, which indeed was of an Administration which while in no way solely responsible of what was happening, failed to be assertive and showcase true leadership at a time in which it could have made a significant difference.

Now, it isn't like I'm the most adecuate person to say it as I have not been as active as I could and should have been as Vice-President, but at this stage things are better left said than unsaid.

[Lumine]

The problem is that bore simply threw the towel when any sign of activity from the top would be of great importance. He didn't cross the line like Nix, but the fact remains he gave up.

Even before the crisis bore was pretty much a lackluster President. When I was the GM I a had very hard time to get him to react to anything (Lumine was very cooperative).

Interesting that you've neglected to mention that your time as GM came to an ignominious end as you were forced by the overwhelming weight of public opinion to resign as GM because you nuked atlasia.

At least Kalwejt acted, and as GM he always worked to make the game more interesting and more interactive. His legacy as an officeholder (and particularly as GM) is far more accomplished than this revisionist active and strong presidency which apparently existed during 2015, even if we can find countless statements of respected Atlasians of different sides who openly defined the period the other way around.

Your call for radical reform was admittedly more reasonable than that of those who wished for the game to suddenly cease its existence, but you are on record stating that a Con Con was impossible at one moment and that we might as well leave everything to burn down. To make matters worse, that was right at the moment in which we had an actual revolution and the Attorney General appointed by the Administration committing treason. What we needed was firm, assertive leadership from the White House, and I'm pretty sure that wasn't what we had (which was voiced again and again from people from virtually all sides).

And if we want to debate only of facts, we can note that the opinion polls and public debate consistently showcased disappointment on the administration, that respected cabinet ministers resigned in protest of this, that even people deeply supportive of Labor like Windjammer did call for your resignation and that very little got actually done or said by the White House in those two terms.

[Lumine]

Fmr. President James Buchanan OldPublicFunctionary       YaBB God ★★★★★ Posts: 6168

Re: BREAKING: Lee's Army Surrenders at Appomattox « on: April 9, 1865, 11:23:47 pm » My last months as president coincided with a secession crisis, with state after state announcing her departure from the union, the congress hopelessly divided, and the army a mere husk. It was only through my strong leadership, neither resigning and abandoning the union nor endorsing the approach of black Republicans who wished merely to play coy and ignore the impending rupture of our family of states, that brought about a successful war strategy which, while perhaps going on for too long, did bring about the reunion that was necessary.

You sir, have won this thread.