jfern on London Terrorist Attacks

[J. J.]

In wars, there are always counter attacks.  Look at Ardennes Offensive during WW II.  Bad as this attack was, it could have been a lot worse.

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Can you idiots please stop acting like I condone the acts?

[patrick1]

Can you idiots please stop acting like I condone the acts?

 You don't condone it but you certainly jumped on it fast enough as one of your anti-Bush talking points.  It was rather unseemly and in bad taste to play politics while the blood hadn't even dried. 

[Akno21]

In all seriousness, when may we resume to criticize Bush and Blair's foriegn policy? There is understandably a period of mourning after an attack like this, but how long does it last for? Jfern has a valid point, but when can it be discussed?

[○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└]

Can you idiots please stop acting like I condone the acts?

 You don't condone it but you certainly jumped on it fast enough as one of your anti-Bush talking points.  It was rather unseemly and in bad taste to play politics while the blood hadn't even dried. 

I suppose I shouldn't have. But I'm sure I wasn't the first person to politicize it.

[○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└]

In all seriousness, when may we resume to criticize Bush and Blair's foriegn policy? There is understandably a period of mourning after an attack like this, but how long does it last for? Jfern has a valid point, but when can it be discussed?

If we look to the American media after 9/11, it appears that we have to wait over a year.

[J. J.]

In all seriousness, when may we resume to criticize Bush and Blair's foriegn policy? There is understandably a period of mourning after an attack like this, but how long does it last for? Jfern has a valid point, but when can it be discussed?

If we look to the American media after 9/11, it appears that we have to wait over a year.

Even a mortally wounded aminal can attack.  Your attack was not on foreign policy, but on military policy.  It is unreasonable to assume, that attacks can not occur, even when we are winning.

[○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└]

In all seriousness, when may we resume to criticize Bush and Blair's foriegn policy? There is understandably a period of mourning after an attack like this, but how long does it last for? Jfern has a valid point, but when can it be discussed?

If we look to the American media after 9/11, it appears that we have to wait over a year.

Even a mortally wounded aminal can attack.  Your attack was not on foreign policy, but on military policy.  It is unreasonable to assume, that attacks can not occur, even when we are winning.

The US media never criticized Bush for about a year after 9/11. My attack was on the war on terror, which has been neglected in favor of the war in Iraq.

[KillerPollo]

In all seriousness, when may we resume to criticize Bush and Blair's foriegn policy? There is understandably a period of mourning after an attack like this, but how long does it last for? Jfern has a valid point, but when can it be discussed?

If we look to the American media after 9/11, it appears that we have to wait over a year.

Even a mortally wounded aminal can attack.  Your attack was not on foreign policy, but on military policy.  It is unreasonable to assume, that attacks can not occur, even when we are winning.

The US media never criticized Bush for about a year after 9/11. My attack was on the war on terror, which has been neglected in favor of the war in Iraq.

Tony Blair is now a world hero! you'll see! and then everyone will start to hate him!

[J. J.]

In all seriousness, when may we resume to criticize Bush and Blair's foriegn policy? There is understandably a period of mourning after an attack like this, but how long does it last for? Jfern has a valid point, but when can it be discussed?

If we look to the American media after 9/11, it appears that we have to wait over a year.

Even a mortally wounded aminal can attack.  Your attack was not on foreign policy, but on military policy.  It is unreasonable to assume, that attacks can not occur, even when we are winning.

The US media never criticized Bush for about a year after 9/11. My attack was on the war on terror, which has been neglected in favor of the war in Iraq.

We are not discussing the media; we are discussing your comments.

[○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└]

In all seriousness, when may we resume to criticize Bush and Blair's foriegn policy? There is understandably a period of mourning after an attack like this, but how long does it last for? Jfern has a valid point, but when can it be discussed?

If we look to the American media after 9/11, it appears that we have to wait over a year.

Even a mortally wounded aminal can attack.  Your attack was not on foreign policy, but on military policy.  It is unreasonable to assume, that attacks can not occur, even when we are winning.

The US media never criticized Bush for about a year after 9/11. My attack was on the war on terror, which has been neglected in favor of the war in Iraq.

We are not discussing the media; we are discussing your comments.

If the media can praise Bush and never criticize Bush for a year, I can damn well criticize Bush whenever I want. You got a problem with that?

[MODU]

In all seriousness, when may we resume to criticize Bush and Blair's foriegn policy? There is understandably a period of mourning after an attack like this, but how long does it last for? Jfern has a valid point, but when can it be discussed?

At least 24 hours, or until they've accounted for all the missing persons from the attack.

[J. J.]

In all seriousness, when may we resume to criticize Bush and Blair's foriegn policy? There is understandably a period of mourning after an attack like this, but how long does it last for? Jfern has a valid point, but when can it be discussed?

If we look to the American media after 9/11, it appears that we have to wait over a year.

Even a mortally wounded aminal can attack.  Your attack was not on foreign policy, but on military policy.  It is unreasonable to assume, that attacks can not occur, even when we are winning.

The US media never criticized Bush for about a year after 9/11. My attack was on the war on terror, which has been neglected in favor of the war in Iraq.

We are not discussing the media; we are discussing your comments.

If the media can praise Bush and never criticize Bush for a year, I can damn well criticize Bush whenever I want. You got a problem with that?

I have a severe problems with the accuracy of your claims, as do an increasing number of the posters here.  By the logic of your position, we were losing World War II because the Nazis launched an offesive in December of 1944.

You will also note that I have not been one of the numerous people on this thread that has said you should not be critical.  I critize your ideas, not your expression of them.

[○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└]

If the media can praise Bush and never criticize Bush for a year, I can damn well criticize Bush whenever I want. You got a problem with that?

I have a severe problems with the accuracy of your claims, as do an increasing number of the posters here.  By the logic of your position, we were losing World War II because the Nazis launched an offesive in December of 1944.

You will also note that I have not been one of the numerous people on this thread that has said you should not be critical.  I critize your ideas, not your expression of them.

Then what were we arguing about? I wasn't making any claims, except that the media was rather un-critical of Bush for a while after 9/11.

[Joe Republic]

Thirteen Iraqi people died in two car-bomb blasts last night.  Did anybody even notice the news report?  Was it even featured on the evening news?

[○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└]

Thirteen Iraqi people died in two car-bomb blasts last night.  Did anybody even notice the news report?  Was it even featured on the evening news?

Something like 1000 protestors were attacked by Iraqi police, too. The media usually isn't that good at covering minor stories when they have a major story to cover. Of course usually their major story is something lame like the Laci Peterson case.

[J. J.]

If the media can praise Bush and never criticize Bush for a year, I can damn well criticize Bush whenever I want. You got a problem with that?

I have a severe problems with the accuracy of your claims, as do an increasing number of the posters here.  By the logic of your position, we were losing World War II because the Nazis launched an offesive in December of 1944.

You will also note that I have not been one of the numerous people on this thread that has said you should not be critical.  I critize your ideas, not your expression of them.

Then what were we arguing about? I wasn't making any claims, except that the media was rather un-critical of Bush for a while after 9/11.

You quoted Bush.  Now, he seems to have quite correct that al-Qaeda is on the run.  The attack here, was mercifully smalling in scope than the Madrid attack, which was smaller than the New York attack.  He didn't say, as you implied, that there would no further attacks.  I frankly would expect more attacks to follow.

[dazzleman]

It's always sad to see that some people hate our leaders more than those who have attacked us.  I think we should let them express their poisonous opinions, so we can see them as they truly are.  There is no point in engaging in discussion with them, because their misplaced hate has overriden any reason.

My sympathies to the British people, especially those hurt and their families, and the families of those who died.

[○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└]

Can you idiots please stop acting like I condone the acts?

WE are the idiots? WE didn't start this totally inappropriate thread!

Neither did I. I just made some random comment, but Pope PD decide that it needed it's own thread. Take it out on Pope PD.

[MODU]

Can you idiots please stop acting like I condone the acts?

WE are the idiots? WE didn't start this totally inappropriate thread!

Neither did I. I just made some random comment, but Pope PD decide that it needed it's own thread. Take it out on Pope PD.

You knew exactly what you were doing when you chose that one particular sentance.  Don't even try to play innocent.

[°Leprechaun]

Bush is the one who made terrorism an issue. It is absurd for his supporters to believe that they can say anything they want, but want his critics to be silent. If terrorism isn't 'partisan' then why did Bush make it the number one issue in last year's election?
Bush can say anything he wants. He is saying all kind of macho John Wayne type things and those of us who know that he is a total phony are supposed to be silent? I don't think so.
Truly this is a sad day. But why are all the lives lost in Iraq so totally unimportant?

[??????????]

Bush is the one who made terrorism an issue.

Um no.......remember 9/11? Oh yeah...you have the 9/10 mentality.

[○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└]

Can you idiots please stop acting like I condone the acts?

WE are the idiots? WE didn't start this totally inappropriate thread!

Neither did I. I just made some random comment, but Pope PD decide that it needed it's own thread. Take it out on Pope PD.

You knew exactly what you were doing when you chose that one particular sentance.  Don't even try to play innocent.

Has is ever occured to you people that you are seriously over-reacting. Yeah, maybe my comments were in-approiate. But so is all this mindless "you can't criticize Bush now". The  I can. The media sure as hell hasn't, so it's up to people like me to do their ing job. I reserve the right to criticize the worse President ever whenever the  I want. Ok, my post started out sounding a lot less diplomatic than it ended up, but that's because I'm getting sick of every idiot on this forum calling me a "terrorist coddler" when Bush failed to do sh**t to fight terrorism before 9/11.

[MODU]

It is absurd for his supporters to believe that they can say anything they want, but want his critics to be silent.

There is a difference between being a critic and offering constructive criticism.  Many of the 'critics' are destructive, not constructive, and yes, I think they should keep their mouths shut.  Just like your momma always told you:  "If you can't say something nice, don't say anything at all."  Once these destructive critics have something constructive to say, then we are all ears.

[○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└]

Bush is the one who made terrorism an issue.

Um no.......remember 9/11? Oh yeah...you have the 9/10 mentality.

I have an 8/06/01 mentality. It's called "Bin Laden determined to strike in U.S.".