Which is more divine & more loving: submission or collaboration?
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Question: Which is more divine & more loving: submission or collaboration?
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« on: November 01, 2016, 10:48:50 PM »

Which is more divine & more loving:
1. submission
2. collaboration
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« Reply #1 on: November 02, 2016, 12:42:19 AM »

You'll have to explain what you mean by each.
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« Reply #2 on: November 02, 2016, 12:46:39 PM »

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« Reply #3 on: November 02, 2016, 10:42:49 PM »
« Edited: November 02, 2016, 10:47:23 PM by Blue3 »

Submission:
Husband and Wife disagree (or partners, or friends, or siblings, or parent-child, or boss-employee, or co-workers, or nation-states, or any other relationship). Wife must submit to the will of her husband, it reflects how humans must submit to the will of God, it is how to love and it is the natural way of things. Yielding to what is thought to be the inherently-superior authority of another. Deferring to one to make the final decision, it the final decision naturally belongs to that one person alone. More dictatorial than democratic. You can't have true peace and order without a hierarchy of submission, or at least that's how it would work in a perfect world. Submission is more loving and closer to God than collaboration.

Collaboration:
Husband and Wife disagree (or partners, or friends, or siblings, or parent-child, or boss-employee, or co-workers, or nation-states, or any other relationship). Husband and Wife discuss their points of view, the pro's and con's of the options, come to a better understanding of each other, and find a way that they both agree to even if it wasn't what either of them originally wanted. Not deferring to one alone to make the final decision, you make the final decision together. More democratic than dictatorial. You can't have true peace and order without working together and everyone having a voice and being considered, making decisions that all agree to in a consensus... or at least that's how it should work in a perfect world. This harmonizing is the way of true love, and true love is divine. Collaboration is more loving and closer to God than submission.
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« Reply #4 on: November 04, 2016, 10:21:01 AM »

Collaboration is more loving, submission can turn creepy quite easy
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« Reply #5 on: November 05, 2016, 02:45:44 AM »

It depends on the nature and premises of the relationship (one submits, in many situations, to a parent, not so much to a friend), but obviously collaboration is generally the more appropriate stance towards other human beings.
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« Reply #6 on: November 05, 2016, 07:06:50 PM »

I see those to words as rather synonymous depending on the situation.

In the battles of ideas, one must sometimes submit/accept the ideas or notions given before collaboration might dot the Is and cross the Ts.

Submission, in the Muslim view of submission to Allah is to sell ones soul to Satan.

Not that either entity is real.

Collaboration, especially in leadership and follower terms, is the key to success. Especially in times of war.

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