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« on: November 02, 2016, 07:40:51 AM »

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« Reply #1 on: November 02, 2016, 09:30:12 AM »

RIP. I wonder if the democrats knew of this before-hand and that's why they mysteriously pulled out Wink
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« Reply #2 on: November 02, 2016, 09:40:57 AM »

Mirror, mirror on the wall, who has been the bigger disaster of them all for the Dems during the campaign, Murphy or Bayh?
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« Reply #3 on: November 02, 2016, 09:46:40 AM »

Mirror, mirror on the wall, who has been the bigger disaster of them all for the Dems during the campaign, Murphy or Bayh?
Bayh, he saw a 20 something point lead evaporate to a tie.
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« Reply #4 on: November 02, 2016, 10:54:27 AM »

Mirror, mirror on the wall, who has been the bigger disaster of them all for the Dems during the campaign, Murphy or Bayh?
Bayh, he saw a 20 something point lead evaporate to a tie.

I mean, that was going to happen anyway since it's Indiana. Bayh still has a decent chance of winning, unlike Murphy.
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« Reply #5 on: November 02, 2016, 11:48:35 AM »

So, to recap, Murphy is an empty opportunist who gets overhyped and propped up by sketchy means? Okay, I get why Republicans don't like him. I'm sure they hold Flawless Beautiful Marco Purple heart Purple heart Purple heart to the same standard, and don't worship him like he's the messiah of the Republican Party, and aren't merely concerned with alleged electoral success while ignoring policies, issues, and political achievements. No, of course Republicans are nothing like that. Roll Eyes

Yeah, Murphy sucks. I've never particularly liked him, and my opinion of him has definitely gone down over the past year. I just hoped he could bring an end to the loathsome Rubio hype, but it looks like we'll have to endure another four years of it. If you hate Murphy for being an empty opportunist, but love Rubio, at least admit that you're a partisan hack that doesn't care about the issues, and only cares about Republican electoral success.

Did it ever occur to you that some posters, without being horrible people or hacks, might actually agree with Rubio more on the issues than with Murphy?  But yes, Rubio is gorgeous, and I want him. Smiley
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« Reply #6 on: November 02, 2016, 11:59:54 AM »

I was really hoping Rubio would lose. Sad
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« Reply #7 on: November 02, 2016, 12:16:22 PM »

So, to recap, Murphy is an empty opportunist who gets overhyped and propped up by sketchy means? Okay, I get why Republicans don't like him. I'm sure they hold Flawless Beautiful Marco Purple heart Purple heart Purple heart to the same standard, and don't worship him like he's the messiah of the Republican Party, and aren't merely concerned with alleged electoral success while ignoring policies, issues, and political achievements. No, of course Republicans are nothing like that. Roll Eyes

Yeah, Murphy sucks. I've never particularly liked him, and my opinion of him has definitely gone down over the past year. I just hoped he could bring an end to the loathsome Rubio hype, but it looks like we'll have to endure another four years of it. If you hate Murphy for being an empty opportunist, but love Rubio, at least admit that you're a partisan hack that doesn't care about the issues, and only cares about Republican electoral success.

Did it ever occur to you that some posters, without being horrible people or hacks, might actually agree with Rubio more on the issues than with Murphy?  But yes, Rubio is gorgeous, and I want him. Smiley

Would that justify constantly propping him up as the next President in 2020, though? I happen to agree with Murphy more than Rubio, but at least I'll admit that Murphy's not good, and I'm not hyping him up as a 2020 presidential contender.
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« Reply #8 on: November 02, 2016, 01:53:38 PM »

So, to recap, Murphy is an empty opportunist who gets overhyped and propped up by sketchy means? Okay, I get why Republicans don't like him. I'm sure they hold Flawless Beautiful Marco Purple heart Purple heart Purple heart to the same standard, and don't worship him like he's the messiah of the Republican Party, and aren't merely concerned with alleged electoral success while ignoring policies, issues, and political achievements. No, of course Republicans are nothing like that. Roll Eyes

Yeah, Murphy sucks. I've never particularly liked him, and my opinion of him has definitely gone down over the past year. I just hoped he could bring an end to the loathsome Rubio hype, but it looks like we'll have to endure another four years of it. If you hate Murphy for being an empty opportunist, but love Rubio, at least admit that you're a partisan hack that doesn't care about the issues, and only cares about Republican electoral success.

Did it ever occur to you that some posters, without being horrible people or hacks, might actually agree with Rubio more on the issues than with Murphy?  But yes, Rubio is gorgeous, and I want him. Smiley

Would that justify constantly propping him up as the next President in 2020, though? I happen to agree with Murphy more than Rubio, but at least I'll admit that Murphy's not good, and I'm not hyping him up as a 2020 presidential contender.

How childish can people be? You guys hate Rubio because he could be a 2020 Contender & not for his qualities. He is running for his Senate seat, grow up & judge him on his merit. If or when he will run for the presidency, then use these arguments.

It is better to have guys like Rubio in the Senate the lunatics like Cruz. If Rubio loses, any moderate Republican can get a very wrong message about supporting Immigration reform!
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« Reply #9 on: November 02, 2016, 01:54:34 PM »

So, to recap, Murphy is an empty opportunist who gets overhyped and propped up by sketchy means? Okay, I get why Republicans don't like him. I'm sure they hold Flawless Beautiful Marco Purple heart Purple heart Purple heart to the same standard, and don't worship him like he's the messiah of the Republican Party, and aren't merely concerned with alleged electoral success while ignoring policies, issues, and political achievements. No, of course Republicans are nothing like that. Roll Eyes

Yeah, Murphy sucks. I've never particularly liked him, and my opinion of him has definitely gone down over the past year. I just hoped he could bring an end to the loathsome Rubio hype, but it looks like we'll have to endure another four years of it. If you hate Murphy for being an empty opportunist, but love Rubio, at least admit that you're a partisan hack that doesn't care about the issues, and only cares about Republican electoral success.

Did it ever occur to you that some posters, without being horrible people or hacks, might actually agree with Rubio more on the issues than with Murphy?  But yes, Rubio is gorgeous, and I want him. Smiley

Would that justify constantly propping him up as the next President in 2020, though? I happen to agree with Murphy more than Rubio, but at least I'll admit that Murphy's not good, and I'm not hyping him up as a 2020 presidential contender.

It's Consumerism 101: the simple-minded are drawn to shiny objects.  Yes, it's annoying, but it's what our media overlords are determined to continue serving us.
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« Reply #10 on: November 02, 2016, 02:06:05 PM »

So, to recap, Murphy is an empty opportunist who gets overhyped and propped up by sketchy means? Okay, I get why Republicans don't like him. I'm sure they hold Flawless Beautiful Marco Purple heart Purple heart Purple heart to the same standard, and don't worship him like he's the messiah of the Republican Party, and aren't merely concerned with alleged electoral success while ignoring policies, issues, and political achievements. No, of course Republicans are nothing like that. Roll Eyes

Yeah, Murphy sucks. I've never particularly liked him, and my opinion of him has definitely gone down over the past year. I just hoped he could bring an end to the loathsome Rubio hype, but it looks like we'll have to endure another four years of it. If you hate Murphy for being an empty opportunist, but love Rubio, at least admit that you're a partisan hack that doesn't care about the issues, and only cares about Republican electoral success.

No, I won't do that because it's not true. The arrogance about Rubio Supporters is really ridiculous.

Rubio = Neoconservative
Me = Neoconservative

Shouldn't be that hard to figure out why I like him so much and why so many others like him so much as well. I back Ayotte almost as strongly as I back Rubio, but I don't want to deal with TNVol and Heisenberg's "angry women theory" so I stay quiet on it.


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« Reply #11 on: November 02, 2016, 02:35:37 PM »

I wouldn't believe anything from the FBI at this point, or at least I wouldn't believe any rumors of what the FBI is investigating at this point.
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« Reply #12 on: November 02, 2016, 02:38:49 PM »
« Edited: November 02, 2016, 02:41:17 PM by Adam T »

So, to recap, Murphy is an empty opportunist who gets overhyped and propped up by sketchy means? Okay, I get why Republicans don't like him. I'm sure they hold Flawless Beautiful Marco Purple heart Purple heart Purple heart to the same standard, and don't worship him like he's the messiah of the Republican Party, and aren't merely concerned with alleged electoral success while ignoring policies, issues, and political achievements. No, of course Republicans are nothing like that. Roll Eyes

Yeah, Murphy sucks. I've never particularly liked him, and my opinion of him has definitely gone down over the past year. I just hoped he could bring an end to the loathsome Rubio hype, but it looks like we'll have to endure another four years of it. If you hate Murphy for being an empty opportunist, but love Rubio, at least admit that you're a partisan hack that doesn't care about the issues, and only cares about Republican electoral success.

Did it ever occur to you that some posters, without being horrible people or hacks, might actually agree with Rubio more on the issues than with Murphy?  But yes, Rubio is gorgeous, and I want him. Smiley

Would that justify constantly propping him up as the next President in 2020, though? I happen to agree with Murphy more than Rubio, but at least I'll admit that Murphy's not good, and I'm not hyping him up as a 2020 presidential contender.

How childish can people be? You guys hate Rubio because he could be a 2020 Contender & not for his qualities. He is running for his Senate seat, grow up & judge him on his merit. If or when he will run for the presidency, then use these arguments.

It is better to have guys like Rubio in the Senate the lunatics like Cruz. If Rubio loses, any moderate Republican can get a very wrong message about supporting Immigration reform!

Only in today's environment where to qualify as a moderate Republican a House Member of U.S Senator just has to be moderately sane would Marco Rubio be considered an indicator of how moderates fair.

Rubio himself repudiated his immigration reform and he's as big a right wing extremist as virtually all Congressional Republicans are these days.
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« Reply #13 on: November 02, 2016, 02:41:06 PM »

I wouldn't believe anything from the FBI at this point, or at least I wouldn't believe any rumors of what the FBI is investigating at this point.

need a tin foil hat?
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« Reply #14 on: November 02, 2016, 02:45:52 PM »

I wouldn't believe anything from the FBI at this point, or at least I wouldn't believe any rumors of what the FBI is investigating at this point.

need a tin foil hat?

Nope, it's Donald Trump who wears that.  I wouldn't believe anything about this election from an FBI headed up by James Comey.
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« Reply #15 on: November 02, 2016, 02:48:19 PM »

So, to recap, Murphy is an empty opportunist who gets overhyped and propped up by sketchy means? Okay, I get why Republicans don't like him. I'm sure they hold Flawless Beautiful Marco Purple heart Purple heart Purple heart to the same standard, and don't worship him like he's the messiah of the Republican Party, and aren't merely concerned with alleged electoral success while ignoring policies, issues, and political achievements. No, of course Republicans are nothing like that. Roll Eyes

Yeah, Murphy sucks. I've never particularly liked him, and my opinion of him has definitely gone down over the past year. I just hoped he could bring an end to the loathsome Rubio hype, but it looks like we'll have to endure another four years of it. If you hate Murphy for being an empty opportunist, but love Rubio, at least admit that you're a partisan hack that doesn't care about the issues, and only cares about Republican electoral success.

No, I won't do that because it's not true. The arrogance about Rubio Supporters is really ridiculous.

Rubio = Neoconservative
Me = Neoconservative

Shouldn't be that hard to figure out why I like him so much and why so many others like him so much as well. I back Ayotte almost as strongly as I back Rubio, but I don't want to deal with TNVol and Heisenberg's "angry women theory" so I stay quiet on it.




If you're very conservative, then it makes sense to support candidates like Rubio against a Democrat, but why choose him over a more experienced conservative with more accomplishments and a less spotty record when it comes to voting for president?

I will admit that I went too far with my previous comment. I want to apologize for that. I remain annoyed at Rubio's antics in this race, but looking at my comment now, it was too aggressive, and I apologize. This has been a rough week, and this whole election has really gotten under my skin.

Shadows, your comment, however, is completely wrong. I am very much opposed to Rubio ideologically, just like Johnson and other ultra conservatives in the Senate (he is not a moderate, and I don't see how that is debatable.) The fact that he gets so much hype just makes it worse.
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« Reply #16 on: November 02, 2016, 02:54:03 PM »

The fact that people believe El Chico is a "moderate" or whatever now really speaks to the effectiveness of good propaganda these days.
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« Reply #17 on: November 02, 2016, 02:54:15 PM »

You're fine, I definitely get where you're coming from. the week before election day always gets the best of everyone, myself included.

I just cant wait for it to be over.
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« Reply #18 on: November 02, 2016, 02:57:23 PM »

Why are Florida and Ohio Democrats so inept in picking Senate candidates?
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« Reply #19 on: November 02, 2016, 03:01:30 PM »

The fact that people believe El Chico is a "moderate" or whatever now really speaks to the effectiveness of good propaganda these days.

Do "moderate" Senators really exist these days, though? I can think of maybe 3 or 4 Senators that I would consider moderates, but definitely not more.

The real question is whether good senators exist these days.  You can find three, maybe four of them in either party.

But yes, the word "moderate" should probably be banished from political discourse, because outside the secluded perspective of political neckbeards like ourselves, it's a pretty useless term in general.
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« Reply #20 on: November 02, 2016, 06:42:18 PM »

So, to recap, Murphy is an empty opportunist who gets overhyped and propped up by sketchy means? Okay, I get why Republicans don't like him. I'm sure they hold Flawless Beautiful Marco Purple heart Purple heart Purple heart to the same standard, and don't worship him like he's the messiah of the Republican Party, and aren't merely concerned with alleged electoral success while ignoring policies, issues, and political achievements. No, of course Republicans are nothing like that. Roll Eyes

Yeah, Murphy sucks. I've never particularly liked him, and my opinion of him has definitely gone down over the past year. I just hoped he could bring an end to the loathsome Rubio hype, but it looks like we'll have to endure another four years of it. If you hate Murphy for being an empty opportunist, but love Rubio, at least admit that you're a partisan hack that doesn't care about the issues, and only cares about Republican electoral success.

Did it ever occur to you that some posters, without being horrible people or hacks, might actually agree with Rubio more on the issues than with Murphy?  But yes, Rubio is gorgeous, and I want him. Smiley

i would, indeed, argue that it isn't possible to agree more on the issues with an anti-lgbt+, anti-woman, anti-poor warmonger like rubio without beïng a horrible person
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