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migrendel
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« Reply #25 on: April 26, 2004, 09:52:19 PM »

Good. M now has about 18 hours to declare his candidacy or  you will be declared winner. I urge you all to make every effort to contact him.
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« Reply #26 on: April 26, 2004, 09:53:50 PM »

Only eligible voters at the time of the previous election may vote, and only the two contested seats will hold new elections.
Was Jesus a "non-participating voter"? He voted in the election, but didn't vote for Lewis or StevenNick.
What if there is still a tie in the run-off?
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« Reply #27 on: April 26, 2004, 09:58:23 PM »

Our intent is to allow people who might have voted for the major party candidates break the tie. If the tie remains, the Court will hear arguments as to how to solve the dispute non-electorally. Perhaps we'll get the candidates to agree to whatever the online equivalent of flipping a coin is.
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« Reply #28 on: April 26, 2004, 11:55:49 PM »

Our intent is to allow people who might have voted for the major party candidates break the tie. If the tie remains, the Court will hear arguments as to how to solve the dispute non-electorally. Perhaps we'll get the candidates to agree to whatever the online equivalent of flipping a coin is.
This sounds like a good plan.  Thank you Supreme Court....or Supreme Court nominees (whatever).
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« Reply #29 on: April 27, 2004, 04:07:18 AM »

Our intent is to allow people who might have voted for the major party candidates break the tie. If the tie remains, the Court will hear arguments as to how to solve the dispute non-electorally. Perhaps we'll get the candidates to agree to whatever the online equivalent of flipping a coin is.
Yeah, but what is that?
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« Reply #30 on: April 27, 2004, 04:10:06 AM »

As you say Thursday and Friday and polls are usually open 48 hours here I assume it's midnighjt to midnight? In that case the polls close on Saturday the first 6 am CET, just as I touch down on German soil again... Smiley Hope that's a good omen!
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« Reply #31 on: April 27, 2004, 05:45:02 AM »

Our intent is to allow people who might have voted for the major party candidates break the tie. If the tie remains, the Court will hear arguments as to how to solve the dispute non-electorally. Perhaps we'll get the candidates to agree to whatever the online equivalent of flipping a coin is.
Yeah, but what is that?

http://www.random.org/flip.html
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« Reply #32 on: April 27, 2004, 09:15:47 AM »

We simply intend to methodically go through all of our options for resolving the District 5 tie. Ideally, this can be solved by the District's voters.
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« Reply #33 on: April 27, 2004, 04:01:59 PM »

THE DECISION OF THE SUPREME COURT IN THE CASE OF M v. HARRY:

[The following portion of the decision was reached by a unanimous vote]
The Supreme Court, pursuant to the declaration clause, finds the candidacy of M invalid. There was no formal announcement of intent. The Court, however, under the concept of electoral participation, finds the votes for him valid. Therefore, the Court gives M until 5:00 P.M. Tuesday to formally announce his decision. A by-election to fill the vacancy will be held on Thursday and Friday. If no such declaration is made, this Court finds Harry to rightfully be the Senator.

[The following section was decided 2-1, with migrendel and Mas117 forming the majority and KEmperor dissenting.]
In addition, the Court restricts candidate participation in the by-election to M and Harry.

[The following case was decided per curiam]
The Supreme Court orders a special election between Lewis Trondheim and his opponent on Thursday and Friday to give the non-participating voters a chance to break the deadlock.

Well, the deadline for M to come forward has passed.  What happens now?
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« Reply #34 on: April 27, 2004, 07:56:36 PM »

Since M failed to comply with court order, Harry is declared Senator.
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« Reply #35 on: April 28, 2004, 05:19:07 PM »

I would just like to post my dissenting opinion in the District 4 decision:

While I agree that M was not a valid candidate, a revote that contains just one valid candidate is not a revote at all.  In the interests of fairness, any potential valid candidates should have been allowed to declare a write-in candidacy.
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« Reply #36 on: April 28, 2004, 05:22:49 PM »
« Edited: April 28, 2004, 05:32:40 PM by KEmperor »

I also have the transcripts of the actual debate should anyone be interested.  I don't think we're going to have much to do now anyway.
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« Reply #37 on: April 28, 2004, 05:35:49 PM »

Yes, this would be interesting to see.
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« Reply #38 on: April 28, 2004, 05:38:46 PM »
« Edited: April 28, 2004, 05:47:53 PM by KEmperor »


I can send them to you if you want, just IM me.  I think i was the only one who thought it might be necessary to record it.
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« Reply #39 on: April 28, 2004, 09:40:41 PM »

I also have the transcripts of the actual debate should anyone be interested.  I don't think we're going to have much to do now anyway.

I would like a copy
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« Reply #40 on: April 28, 2004, 09:41:47 PM »

I also have the transcripts of the actual debate should anyone be interested.  I don't think we're going to have much to do now anyway.

I would like a copy

My AIM screen name and e-mail are public.  Contact me with a way to contact you.
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« Reply #41 on: August 24, 2004, 09:54:46 AM »

THE DECISION OF THE SUPREME COURT IN THE CASE OF M v. HARRY:

[The following portion of the decision was reached by a unanimous vote]
The Supreme Court, pursuant to the declaration clause, finds the candidacy of M invalid. There was no formal announcement of intent. The Court, however, under the concept of electoral participation, finds the votes for him valid. Therefore, the Court gives M until 5:00 P.M. Tuesday to formally announce his decision. A by-election to fill the vacancy will be held on Thursday and Friday. If no such declaration is made, this Court finds Harry to rightfully be the Senator.

[The following section was decided 2-1, with migrendel and Mas117 forming the majority and KEmperor dissenting.]
In addition, the Court restricts candidate participation in the by-election to M and Harry.

[The following case was decided per curiam]
The Supreme Court orders a special election between Lewis Trondheim and his opponent on Thursday and Friday to give the non-participating voters a chance to break the deadlock.

Bump, because matters resolved in this case have been brought forward.
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« Reply #42 on: August 24, 2004, 10:04:30 AM »

Regarding the legitimacy of PBrunsels election as Governor- according to this ruling, votes for PBrunsel were valid, but his candidacy was not as he never declared.  If ILikeVerin were to challenge PBrunsel's election, then PBrunsel would have to declare himself a candidate and a re-vote be held.

I would also like to refer to the section of the Constitution this ruling is based upon:

Clause 2. In order for a senator to be elected, a forum member must declare his or her candidacy for the senate seat of the region or district they wish to represent. Members residing in that region or district shall then appoint said candidate or opponent by proper electoral process.

This refers to Senator elections, not Governor elections.  The rules for Governor elections are set by Regional constitutions.  So the same ruling would not apply.
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« Reply #43 on: August 24, 2004, 11:22:09 AM »

Regarding the legitimacy of PBrunsels election as Governor- according to this ruling, votes for PBrunsel were valid, but his candidacy was not as he never declared.  If ILikeVerin were to challenge PBrunsel's election, then PBrunsel would have to declare himself a candidate and a re-vote be held.

I would also like to refer to the section of the Constitution this ruling is based upon:

Clause 2. In order for a senator to be elected, a forum member must declare his or her candidacy for the senate seat of the region or district they wish to represent. Members residing in that region or district shall then appoint said candidate or opponent by proper electoral process.

This refers to Senator elections, not Governor elections.  The rules for Governor elections are set by Regional constitutions.  So the same ruling would not apply.



Does Harry v. M (or would it be Harry v. Nation?) (that is, the decision that mandated that undeclared write-ins cannot get elected) apply to regional elections?

Ah, I understand.  Yes, based on federalist principles, I would say that any Supreme Court rulings apply to the regions.  Especially since none of the regions have courts of their own.

I'm still thinking about it.
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« Reply #44 on: August 24, 2004, 11:24:05 AM »

Man that was a horrible decision, one candidate ballot no alternatives accepted......
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« Reply #45 on: August 25, 2004, 07:15:49 AM »

Man that was a horrible decision, one candidate ballot no alternatives accepted......

Yep.  That made me pretty mad too.  I would've run against Harry in the new election, but according to the SC, only Harry was able to run.  Fair, huh?
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