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« Reply #325 on: November 08, 2016, 03:17:35 PM »

And the bad news for Trump keeps coming:

Update: 3:06 p.m.: The state maps previously displayed on this page represented only Election Day data but not early vote estimates. They have been removed and will be reposted when they are updated.


You freaking mean they just allotted the damn early vote based on today's vote.  God damn they are amateur hour.
Thought it was a bit wacky.
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« Reply #326 on: November 08, 2016, 03:18:38 PM »

Boo no more maps.
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« Reply #327 on: November 08, 2016, 03:20:23 PM »

Hello All!

My first post. Great forum!

Here in Fairfax County only took about 10 min for me to vote at my polling place.

Saw more people take the DEM ballot that the PUB one but then again it's FFX County.

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« Reply #328 on: November 08, 2016, 03:20:28 PM »
« Edited: November 08, 2016, 03:22:06 PM by Tintrlvr »

It appears the Slate site updated FL total votes now... with Clinton just under 90k votes away from Obama's total in 2012. Trump still 270k away from Romney total.

If this model is correct, the polls were very wrong in FL.

For what it's worth, I've been tracking Hillsborough County's votes by registration all day. Early on, today's votes were 34.2% Democrats, 39.4% Republicans. Currently they're 34.7% Democrats, 37.9% Republicans. Basically, the Republicans have led by about 3,500 votes all day. Add today's votes on top of the early votes and Democrats currently still have a greater than 25,000 vote advantage in Hillsborough County.

Agree with this basically.

The Republicans actually led by a bit more than -4,000 (D minus R) at noon (and had been making steady gains over the course of the morning). Around noon, the Democrats started regaining some ground and had the Republicans down to about -3,550 by 1pm with the lunchtime vote. The Republicans have been slowly inching up since then, now at about -3,650. That all matches with what we should expect: Republicans do well with morning voters and off-hours voters (both being heavy on retirees) and the Democrats do well at peak times around lunch and (especially) in the evening. I expect the Democrats will start gaining ground around 5pm and take the lead before polls close, though hard to say exactly where they will end up. I'd hazard a guess at somewhere between +5,000 and +10,000 for on-the-day voters.
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« Reply #329 on: November 08, 2016, 03:20:33 PM »

And the bad news for Trump keeps coming:

Update: 3:06 p.m.: The state maps previously displayed on this page represented only Election Day data but not early vote estimates. They have been removed and will be reposted when they are updated.



Why it is a bad news? It is good, if the polls were right.
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« Reply #330 on: November 08, 2016, 03:21:39 PM »

And the bad news for Trump keeps coming:

Update: 3:06 p.m.: The state maps previously displayed on this page represented only Election Day data but not early vote estimates. They have been removed and will be reposted when they are updated.



Why it is a bad news?

Because the election day vote will be much more conservative than the early votes.
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« Reply #331 on: November 08, 2016, 03:21:57 PM »

And the bad news for Trump keeps coming:

Update: 3:06 p.m.: The state maps previously displayed on this page represented only Election Day data but not early vote estimates. They have been removed and will be reposted when they are updated.


You freaking mean they just allotted the damn early vote based on today's vote.  God damn they are amateur hour.

Actually, they did have maps based just on early vote earlier today (Wisconsin/Iowa/Ohio were much more blue, FL about the same) and then those maps turned quite a bit more Trump friendly. I think they are saying they forgot to merge the data from Map 1 into Map 2, and that Map 2 was just ED vote. I think.

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« Reply #332 on: November 08, 2016, 03:22:37 PM »

Well a lot of Republicans vote after 5 or 6 when they come home from work. But also young people vote later in the day. So hard to say what's going on (even assuming this isn't junk).

Is there any data about voters pattern i.e. what time od day R vs D usually vote?
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« Reply #333 on: November 08, 2016, 03:23:11 PM »

Saw more people take the DEM ballot that the PUB one but then again it's FFX County.

This confuses me.  There's separate party ballots for a general election?
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« Reply #334 on: November 08, 2016, 03:23:40 PM »

What is up with Menominee County WI
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« Reply #335 on: November 08, 2016, 03:24:49 PM »

lol Hillary has surpassed Obama's raw 2012 Florida total in this thing already
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« Reply #336 on: November 08, 2016, 03:24:52 PM »

Hello All!

My first post. Great forum!

Here in Fairfax County only took about 10 min for me to vote at my polling place.

Saw more people take the DEM ballot that the PUB one but then again it's FFX County.

Thanks.

FFX Gator.
they're letting alligators vote? RIGGED!
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« Reply #337 on: November 08, 2016, 03:25:36 PM »

And the bad news for Trump keeps coming:

Update: 3:06 p.m.: The state maps previously displayed on this page represented only Election Day data but not early vote estimates. They have been removed and will be reposted when they are updated.


You freaking mean they just allotted the damn early vote based on today's vote.  God damn they are amateur hour.

Actually, they did have maps based just on early vote earlier today (Wisconsin/Iowa/Ohio were much more blue, FL about the same) and then those maps turned quite a bit more Trump friendly. I think they are saying they forgot to merge the data from Map 1 into Map 2, and that Map 2 was just ED vote. I think.



That's the way I see it too. Their biggest problem seems to be integrating the actual data model with the multi-platform displays.
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« Reply #338 on: November 08, 2016, 03:25:55 PM »

I'm approaching this with caution but wow Trump looks really low-energy in the WOW areas of Wisconsin.
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« Reply #339 on: November 08, 2016, 03:25:59 PM »


Modeling...
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« Reply #340 on: November 08, 2016, 03:26:49 PM »

Hello All!

My first post. Great forum!

Here in Fairfax County only took about 10 min for me to vote at my polling place.

Saw more people take the DEM ballot that the PUB one but then again it's FFX County.

Thanks.

FFX Gator.
they're letting alligators vote? RIGGED!

Meanwhile the crocodiles, predominantly Republican, were rejected. It's a rigged system folks.
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« Reply #341 on: November 08, 2016, 03:27:01 PM »

Because the election day vote will be much more conservative than the early votes.

Yeah. So why is this bad?

Because they were modeling the early vote to look like the election day vote. Come on, seriously, you can be this dense.
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« Reply #342 on: November 08, 2016, 03:28:21 PM »
« Edited: November 08, 2016, 03:33:39 PM by Tintrlvr »

Well a lot of Republicans vote after 5 or 6 when they come home from work. But also young people vote later in the day. So hard to say what's going on (even assuming this isn't junk).

Is there any data about voters pattern i.e. what time od day R vs D usually vote?

Lief is trolling. It's the other way around. The Democrats do best with late-in-the-day voters, Republicans do best with midday and morning voters. This is because Republicans do better with retirees (who can vote at any time of day and far outnumber students) and because Democrats do best with low-income minority voters, who tend to have fixed and inflexible shifts so usually vote after work. Historically it was also because working Republican voters tended to have more white collar jobs so were more able to get away from work to vote midday, though that may be less true this time around. Obviously there are exceptions in certain areas based on demographics, but this is the overall pattern. The effect is not huge but it is noticeable.
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« Reply #343 on: November 08, 2016, 03:29:01 PM »

Because the election day vote will be much more conservative than the early votes.

Yeah. So why is this bad?

Because they were modeling the early vote to look like the election day vote. Come on, seriously, you can be this dense.
Sorry, misread it. I thought they had only EV on maps, not ED Embarrassed

But the numbers are still right?
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« Reply #344 on: November 08, 2016, 03:30:05 PM »

lol Hillary has surpassed Obama's raw 2012 Florida total in this thing already

Now a full 60,000 ahead of Obama. Trump about 100,000 behind Romney.
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« Reply #345 on: November 08, 2016, 03:30:26 PM »

And the bad news for Trump keeps coming:

Update: 3:06 p.m.: The state maps previously displayed on this page represented only Election Day data but not early vote estimates. They have been removed and will be reposted when they are updated.


You freaking mean they just allotted the damn early vote based on today's vote.  God damn they are amateur hour.

Actually, they did have maps based just on early vote earlier today (Wisconsin/Iowa/Ohio were much more blue, FL about the same) and then those maps turned quite a bit more Trump friendly. I think they are saying they forgot to merge the data from Map 1 into Map 2, and that Map 2 was just ED vote. I think.



Exactly, and this explains why the IA numbers at the top of the page (which have Clinton ahead) didn't match the map on the bottom (which had Trump leading).
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« Reply #346 on: November 08, 2016, 03:30:53 PM »

Well a lot of Republicans vote after 5 or 6 when they come home from work. But also young people vote later in the day. So hard to say what's going on (even assuming this isn't junk).

Is there any data about voters pattern i.e. what time od day R vs D usually vote?

Lief is trolling. It's the other way around. The Democrats do best with late-in-the-day voters, Republicans do best with midday and morning voters. Obviously there are exceptions in certain areas based on demographics, but this is the overall pattern. The effect is not huge but it is noticeable.

Haha, ok. I didn't know. It is so strange that you in USA vote on workday Huh
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« Reply #347 on: November 08, 2016, 03:31:35 PM »

IF you go to that url soneone earlier was saying to go to which takes you directly to the state map the numbers have moved towards trump a bit.

Not sure if it means anything since they said they were working on changing the models.

Scary day!!

Im terrified that this diseased animal may win.

http://votecastr.us/widgets/#/states/CO/

Just change the State appreviations
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« Reply #348 on: November 08, 2016, 03:32:39 PM »

Well a lot of Republicans vote after 5 or 6 when they come home from work. But also young people vote later in the day. So hard to say what's going on (even assuming this isn't junk).

Is there any data about voters pattern i.e. what time od day R vs D usually vote?

Lief is trolling. It's the other way around. The Democrats do best with late-in-the-day voters, Republicans do best with midday and morning voters. Obviously there are exceptions in certain areas based on demographics, but this is the overall pattern. The effect is not huge but it is noticeable.

Haha, ok. I didn't know. It is so strange that you in USA vote on workday Huh

Agreed. It's particularly egregious in states that close polls as early as 7pm so that some people simply can't get to the polls after work.
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« Reply #349 on: November 08, 2016, 03:33:25 PM »

lol Hillary has surpassed Obama's raw 2012 Florida total in this thing already

Now a full 60,000 ahead of Obama. Trump about 100,000 behind Romney.

Damn.
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