Sanders would have won

[Bakersfield Uber Alles]

To say that he would've won is pants on head idiocy.

He could have won, yes. But he would've been branded as a communist and I'm sure they could dig up more articles he wrote 45 years ago.

He could've won, but to say that he would've won is just stupid.

[Shadows]

I think Bernie would have won Goergia & maybe Arizona too! Those states are incredibly close with 4-5% margin against Hillary. Now I think Bernie could swing the white vote by 3-4% from Trump & that would have been enough!

NH would have been an absolute rout for Trump!

[Beet]

Bernie would have made mincemeat of Trump. He had almost everything going for him that Trump did (the protectionism, anti-establishment, anti-special interest, big rallies, appeal to the Midwest, white working class, halo of being an honest guy who 'tells it like it is'), and none of Trump's (or Hillary's) negatives. He did not have Trump's ability to generate media coverage, or Trump's 'law and order' message, but to compensate, he had much higher support among the youth, and minorities + the media/establishment would have sided with him in the end.

[rafta_rafta]

You guys are considering Sanders as he is perceived today. Have to also take into account swiftboating by  GOP

[White Trash]

Bernie Sanders would've killed it.

[Lincoln Republican]

Ultimately, Sanders would not have won.

The extremist socialist would have been exposed for what he is, a leftist wing nut who would bankrupt the nation within a year.

[DrewAu]

He would have held the rust belt.

[Likely Voter]

It is hard to say. We do know that key elements of Sanders-ism didn't do well. In Colorado single-payer healthcare (essentially Sanders-care and something Sanders endorsed and campaigned for) was defeated by 60 points. And in California Sanders campaigned hard for Prop 51 to lower drug pricing (by setting CA prices to US VA pricing) lost by 8 points. California did pass a non-binding law against Citizens United (another signature Sanders issue) but that passed by less than 5% (significantly under-performing Clinton in CA).   

[NOVA Green]

What would his map have been?

He would have won MI, PA, NH and WI for sure.

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Hopefully Ds recent flirtation w/ free trade ends tonight. Obama pushing for TPP in the middle of the election was so tonedeaf. And Hillary never repudiated NAFTA.

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What would his map have been?

He would have won MI, PA, NH and WI for sure.

He would have yuge problems with VA, NV and maybe CO though.  Anyway, looks like Democrats got too excited about the New South too soon.

Disagree with yuge problems in VA/NV/CO (Although maybe Virginia might have been a bit closer. Agree with the later (Bolded)....

Bottom line, Bernie would likely have held the Upper-Midwest, although not sure about OH, but I think he would have made it closer in IA.

Additionally, there would likely be a few wildcard Western States like Montana, Alaska, and even Utah that would have ended up relatively close, and potentially even the "Grain Belt" that used to really like a good old time Prairie Populist (See William Jennings Bryan)....

[Nichlemn]

Just because they're the big story of the election does not mean every single voter is a white working class Rust Belt resident. Whatever gains Sanders might have made among them could easily have been lost among other voters, particularly educated moderates.

[Spark]

Most likely. I would have voted for him. But the Democrats opted for Crooked Hillary

[ProudModerate2]

Bernie would have probably won it. Not a landslide, but enough to take it.
I wish Biden runs in 2020. I think he would make an excellent President.

[Pyro]

Yes. By a yuge margin.

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It is hard to say. We do know that key elements of Sanders-ism didn't do well. In Colorado single-payer healthcare (essentially Sanders-care and something Sanders endorsed and campaigned for) was defeated by 60 points. And in California Sanders campaigned hard for Prop 51 to lower drug pricing (by setting CA prices to US VA pricing) lost by 8 points. California did pass a non-binding law against Citizens United (another signature Sanders issue) but that passed by less than 5% (significantly under-performing Clinton in CA).   

Proposition voting tends to go differently than partisan races, though. In 1998, California's Prop. 227 got 61% of the vote, and then last night Prop. 58 repealed much of it with 72% of the vote. You can't explain that with some simple partisan model.

[Arturo Belano]

Yes, he would have. The Dems f#$ked it all up.

[Mr. Smith]

Bernie would've lost Virginia thanks to turnout depression in Hawkland NoVA, allowing Shenandoah to give it to Trump.

Ohio, Iowa, and Florida would also still be lost.

And Nevada would be the tipping point state.

Best Bernie could do is lighten the EV vote, cuz he wouldn't have the Popular Vote thanks to even less minority turnout..




No, Sanders now would be like Reagan in '76...too soon.

[StateBoiler]

Realistically looking at it, black and Latino turnout would've been down more, but Sanders on the ballot I think he would've won Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania, and New Hampshire.

[pppolitics]

Sanders might have won it barely.

Clinton + MI + WI + PA + ME02 - NV

He would lose: FL, NV, IA, OH, NC

Of cause, because Sanders barely won, there would be a huge blame game with people saying they that they should have nominated Clinton instead.

[pppolitics]

Realistically looking at it, black and Latino turnout would've been down more, but Sanders on the ballot I think he would've won Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania, and New Hampshire.

On top of that, he would probably have won CO and VA and barely won the election.

Virginia is inelastic and he would have won it, although by a smaller margin since the black vote is down.

He probably also held on to CO despite the lower turnout rate for Latino.

He would lose: FL, NV, IA, OH, NC

[Suburbia]

Ultimately, Sanders would not have won.

The extremist socialist would have been exposed for what he is, a leftist wing nut who would bankrupt the nation within a year.

[Sprouts Farmers Market ✘]

Which of these hypothetical nominees would have won?:

Biden
Chafee
Cuomo
Gillibrand
Hickenlooper
Kaine
Klobuchar
O'Malley
Patrick
Sanders
Schweitzer
Warner
Warren
Webb

Thanks to my impeccable voting record, I can tell you that I would vote for Brian Schweitzer and Joe Biden in a heartbeat. Those two would have been locks. idk on the others.

[Suburbia]

Which of these hypothetical nominees would have won?:

Biden
Chafee
Cuomo
Gillibrand
Hickenlooper
Kaine
Klobuchar
O'Malley
Patrick
Sanders
Schweitzer
Warner
Warren
Webb

Thanks to my impeccable voting record, I can tell you that I would vote for Brian Schweitzer and Joe Biden in a heartbeat. Those two would have been locks. idk on the others.

How would they have done with black voters?

[HagridOfTheDeep]

Fools. Bernie has spent more time at this game than Hillary and has way fewer accomplishments to his name. He has no existing rapport with minority communities.

People say the Clinton campaign misused Obama by sending him to North Carolina to gin up black turnout? Suit yourselves, but had they not done that she might have done even worse with black voters. They were not enthused, and they'd be even less enthused by a guy like Bernie who chalks everything up to economics (base) and presumes that race is window dressing (superstructure).

He'd be the foolish socialist who's wasted 30 years on misguided and unsuccessful projects. Maybe he does a little better in the electoral college, but there's also no guarantee he would have run away with the debates the way Clinton did (and presumably that helped her).

We are spending a lot of time talking about what the Democrats did wrong and not as much time talking about what Trump did right. He's what the people wanted and knew how to connect in a way that no one else could.

[Kleine Scheiße]

Any other Democrat would have won. If you count de la Fuente, we had seven serious options for the nomination. We picked the one that had no shot.

[RaphaelDLG]

Fools. Bernie has spent more time at this game than Hillary and has way fewer accomplishments to his name. He has no existing rapport with minority communities.

People say the Clinton campaign misused Obama by sending him to North Carolina to gin up black turnout? Suit yourselves, but had they not done that she might have done even worse with black voters. They were not enthused, and they'd be even less enthused by a guy like Bernie who chalks everything up to economics (base) and presumes that race is window dressing (superstructure).

He'd be the foolish socialist who's wasted 30 years on misguided and unsuccessful projects. Maybe he does a little better in the electoral college, but there's also no guarantee he would have run away with the debates the way Clinton did (and presumably that helped her).

We are spending a lot of time talking about what the Democrats did wrong and not as much time talking about what Trump did right. He's what the people wanted and knew how to connect in a way that no one else could.

Yeah, but that's the exact point people ITT are trying to make!!!  Sanders DID know how to make emotional connections that other candidates like Clinton could not.

Sanders lost to Clinton in the primary because of factors like name recognition/time.  Clinton's primary voters were enthused but by all objective measures were much less enthused than Sanders' primary voters.