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« on: November 10, 2016, 01:02:55 AM »

Was it just because she was a woman?   A man with her record of criminal activities, blunders in office, and who only got to her position based on marriage, would have lost by 10 points.
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« Reply #1 on: November 10, 2016, 01:05:44 AM »

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Lost all credibility.
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« Reply #2 on: November 10, 2016, 01:23:04 AM »

One of the things both nominees had was "years of exposure" to the mass media.

It is clear that the familiarity with Trump was a selling point.

People were also very familiar with Clinton having his husband in the White House.
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« Reply #3 on: November 10, 2016, 01:34:27 AM »

A man with her record of criminal activities...would have lost by 10 points.

Sexual molestation excluded apparently.
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« Reply #4 on: November 10, 2016, 01:37:21 AM »

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Lost all credibility.
But why otherwise did black vote overwhelmingly for her in primaries rather than for Bernie? Because of Bill, apparently. Even Atlas told me so and gave a picture showing that black household income grow quick during Bill Clinton Huh
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« Reply #5 on: November 10, 2016, 01:37:38 AM »

Was it just because she was a woman?   A man with her record of criminal activities, blunders in office, and who only got to her position based on marriage, would have lost by 10 points.

Dude, you elected a literal serial rapist.
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« Reply #6 on: November 10, 2016, 01:41:20 AM »
« Edited: November 10, 2016, 01:58:27 AM by Shadows »

Because the opponent was Trump. Kasich would have won Nevada, New Mexico, Colorado, Minnesota, Maine, Virginia, New Hamsphire in addition.

Clinton would have left with OR, WA, CA, NY, VT, MD, CT & DE. That is it!

And you are right on a few points about her record - She has a horrible record but folks still continue to be delusional & bash you - Shows how clueless they are!
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« Reply #7 on: November 10, 2016, 01:49:04 AM »

One of the things both nominees had was "years of exposure" to the mass media.

It is clear that the familiarity with Trump was a selling point.

People were also very familiar with Clinton having his husband in the White House.

I agree. Trump was more adapted in having an image that could be trashed while looking like the coolest kid in the school. Clinton on the other hand was a woman, wife of Bill Clinton, boring, etc. Regardless how you felt about her, one thing is clear that Hillary was swimming with the sharks and she was an easy target.
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« Reply #8 on: November 10, 2016, 01:55:02 AM »

I find it very sexist that people dislike that Clinton stuck by her husband. People view it so cynically, that she only did that because of political reasons. If she didn't have a smidgen of love for him, political consideration wouldn't have trumped that. Clinton is unfairly painted as a Lady Macbeth.
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« Reply #9 on: November 10, 2016, 02:04:26 AM »

Was it just because she was a woman?   A man with her record of criminal activities, blunders in office, and who only got to her position based on marriage, would have lost by 10 points.

I'm guessing that it was because many people saw her as preferable to a bankrupt pussygrabber.
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« Reply #10 on: November 10, 2016, 03:15:54 AM »

Simple, because she was still a masterful campaigner when put under fire and NOT complacent.

Kasich, Cruz, and Rubio all would've been put to the woodwork because she would've had traditional routes to attack and destroy, and the usual polarization would've put her on the attack the whole time. She's a bit of a glass cannon when it comes to policy, but she has firepower there and probably would've taken out those three before they could really get her.

But Trump seemingly being out put her into complacency, and when it comes to the personality based things, she's defenseless.


Was it just because she was a woman?   A man with her record of criminal activities, blunders in office, and who only got to her position based on marriage, would have lost by 10 points.

Get rid of the dubious last sentence and you just summed up Richard Nixon, who only lost to JFK and a record system of his own doing. Pretty sure Tricky Dick was a dude.
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« Reply #11 on: November 10, 2016, 02:12:47 PM »

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Lost all credibility.
It's a harsh truth, but Clinton's entire political career was based on being the First lady. She would have never been picked to run for Senator in New York, considering her lack of any connection to the state, nor have been the obvious front runner in 2008, if based only on her rather modest achievements as Senator.
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