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« Reply #75 on: November 30, 2016, 09:48:21 PM »

If I can't have Hillary, I'd like Gillibrand.

No, you really can't.
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« Reply #76 on: November 30, 2016, 09:56:08 PM »

If I can't have Hillary, I'd like Gillibrand.

I've been thinking this, but I can't imagine Gillibrand is any more electable than Hillary, apart from the fact that she doesn't have loads of congressional investigations against her.
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« Reply #77 on: November 30, 2016, 10:39:34 PM »
« Edited: November 30, 2016, 10:42:29 PM by Fusionmunster »


Yeah Yeah...
Out with the old, in with the new Sad

If I can't have Hillary, I'd like Gillibrand.

I've been thinking this, but I can't imagine Gillibrand is any more electable than Hillary, apart from the fact that she doesn't have loads of congressional investigations against her.

But that lack of baggage might get her across the finish the line, unlike Hillary. Gillibrand is inoffensive and uncorrupt(and I think pretty likable and skilled IMO), might be a nice change of pace in 4 years.
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« Reply #78 on: November 30, 2016, 10:44:01 PM »

It's hard one. Biden, Sanders and Warren would all be too old.

I don't think Warren would be too old as long as she manages to be as spry as Bernie (of course who knows if that'll be the case). Plus she'd likely be facing a 74-year old Donald Trump.

Yeah. Nobody cares how old she is. Not only is Trump 70, but he's 70, a poonhound, and eats like an animal Wink And the American people are like, whatever, he's fit enough.


My nightmare is Cory Booker. Nobody wants him except for the exact kind of MSNBC loving, Starbucks drinking, suburban liberal who unfortunately votes in primaries. Mark my words, Trump would beat this wet towel if he were the nominee. Nobody outside of the progressive liberal elite bubble thinks that this guy is that great.

Not a Democrat, but this:

1. JBE
2. Brian Schweitzer
3. Jim Webb
4. Jim Justice
5. Gwen Graham
6. Harold Ford Jr.
7. Jon Tester
8. Bob Casey Jr.
9. Steve Bullock
10. Alternate reality non-scumbag John Edwards

is a pretty good list.

This is also just insane to me. First of all, except Tester and Bullock, none of these folks are getting out of a primary. Second of all, half of these folks love oil, so kiss environmentalists goodbye. Half of these folks aren't exactly great on choice or gay rights, so kiss Millennials goodbye. Jim Justice thinks that climate change is "I dunno!"

All it would have taken is half the Jill Stein voters in Michigan and Wisconsin to win those states people! And think about the leftwing voters who didn't turn out (and the center-right voters who voted for Trump anyway despite Hillary's overtures). It's time for the party to wake up and smell the reality that 3rd-Way, coal-loving white guys from states that we won't win in a presidential are not the answer here.
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So my list, then:
1. Warren. Very underrated. Connects with normals very well. Has an easily digestible economic narrative
2. AL FRANKEN! The Anti-Trump
3. Bernie. Hate the guy, but the regular Joes love him.
4. Sherrod Brown. I would be nervous about giving up his Senate seat, and he's a SWCM which is not ideal, but he could do the job fine I think.
5. Catherine Cortez Masto. She did a helluva job winning a seat that Joe Heck probably had an advantage in through October. She's also a lot more relatable to normal people than Kamala Harris. Very underrated.
7. Tammy Duckworth. Bump up to 2 if Trump. She's got a great story.
7. Kamala Harris. I don't know if she is too condescending for normal folks though.

For the love of God please no list:
1. Hickenlooper.
2. Booker.
3. McAuliffe

I won't list Jim Justice because he won't be nominated under any circumstances.
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« Reply #79 on: December 02, 2016, 04:29:51 AM »

1. JBE
2. Brian Schweitzer
3. Jim Webb
4. Jim Justice
5. Gwen Graham
6. Harold Ford Jr.
7. Jon Tester
8. Bob Casey Jr.
9. Steve Bullock
10. Alternate reality non-scumbag John Edwards
#10 is pretty good choice...
He showed up in a timeline of mine posted on Atlas after dark. Tongue
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« Reply #80 on: December 02, 2016, 11:17:16 AM »

1. Sherrod Brown
2. Steve Bullock
3. Elizabeth Warren
4. Martin O'Malley
5. Cory Booker
6. Amy Klobuchar
7. John Hickenlooper
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« Reply #81 on: December 02, 2016, 11:41:36 AM »

1) Warren, if she takes the next four years to really emphasize her OK roots/be less of a Progressive for MA and more of a Progressive Populist for the whole country.

2) Warren if she doesn't do that.

3) Climbing Maggie to give TNVol an aneurysm

4) Bernie

5) Chris Murphy if he ever focused on his really excellent foreign policy and trade positions and less on guns (but he won't and doesn't... *sigh *)

6) (hypothetical)Governor Troy Jackson? It would be kinda weird since he would have been a State Senator a mere four years before running, but I REALLY like him.

7) Kamala Harris TBD. Warren likes her a lot, which is a point in her favor, but I'd have to see what she'd do. I'm also somewhat skeptical of 1st term Senators becoming POTUS.


Honorable mention goes to Sherrod Brown, but I A) think he has a 0% chance of running B) never focuses on building his national brand because of (A)

@White Trash -- I'll have to see more from JBE. I'm not in love with the fact that he's (fairly) socially conservative, but I could get over that.

He's been running a fairly leftist (relatively for a Louisiana governor) administration. He's only emphasized his SoCon credentials and "family values" shtick on the issue of abortion.
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« Reply #82 on: December 02, 2016, 12:04:35 PM »

He's been running a fairly leftist (relatively for a Louisiana governor) administration. He's only emphasized his SoCon credentials and "family values" shtick on the issue of abortion.

Well if he's running an administration that's fairly leftist relative to Huey and Earl Long that's something I can get behind Tongue

But in all seriousness, I wish him well in his re-election bid and I already like him a fair amount.* I merely mean he wouldn't be my first choice for the POTUS Nom in 2020 because, well, he isn't fully aligned with me on all issues and there are (potential) candidates who are.


*I have a... serious soft spot for Populist LA Dems
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« Reply #83 on: December 02, 2016, 05:42:42 PM »


Yeah, now I'm with Al all the way, but in the likely event that he doesn't run, Kamala or Klobuchar are a fine second choice for me. Unless JBE runs.
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« Reply #84 on: December 02, 2016, 06:05:17 PM »

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« Reply #85 on: December 02, 2016, 06:10:38 PM »

Warren. Maybe Brown. We'll see how Harris does, but she seems promising.
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« Reply #86 on: December 03, 2016, 07:17:09 AM »
« Edited: December 03, 2016, 07:19:19 AM by President Johnson »

1. Kamala Harris
2. John Bel Edwards
3. Kirsten Gillibrand


Candidates I wouldn't like so much: Elizabeth Warren, Hillary Clinton, Andrew Cuomo, Bernard


Vice presidential candidates I'd like:

1. Charlie Crist
2. Tulsi Gabbard
3. Claire McCaskill
4. John Hickenlooper
5. Catherine Cortez-Masto
6. Jason Kander
7. Cory Booker

Harris/Crist or Harris/Edwards would be terrific.
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« Reply #87 on: December 07, 2016, 12:02:16 AM »

Sherrod Brown
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« Reply #88 on: December 07, 2016, 12:20:36 AM »

California's next Governor:

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« Reply #89 on: December 07, 2016, 01:03:55 AM »


Jesus Christ he looks like Patrick Bateman.
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« Reply #90 on: December 07, 2016, 01:06:34 AM »


Can we have him go into acting instead? Our governors usually seem to be better actors than governors.
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« Reply #91 on: December 07, 2016, 01:13:19 AM »

Jesus Christ he looks like Patrick Bateman.

We need a psycho to take down Donald J. Trump. Some normie like Jeb/Hillary ain't gonna do it.
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« Reply #92 on: December 07, 2016, 01:17:57 PM »

William McRaven

http://observer.com/2015/11/how-the-democrats-can-win-admiral-william-h-mcraven-for-president/
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