Should this be the Democratic party's policy in handling the Trump presidency?

[LLR]

http://www.sanders.senate.gov/newsroom/press-releases/sanders-statement-on-trump

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IMHO strong yes

[‼realJohnEwards‼]

http://www.sanders.senate.gov/newsroom/press-releases/sanders-statement-on-trump

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IMHO strong yes

Absolutely. Make the Democratic Party the "filter" for Trump's policies. Force compromise. MAGA was never going to happen anyway, so this should just keep the worst policies out of law.

[Person Man]

And if it is all #MAGA stuff, we will obstruct it all. If it is all the economic stuff, we will try to take as much credit for it as he does.

[‼realJohnEwards‼]

And if it is all #MAGA stuff, we will obstruct it all. If it is all the economic stuff, we will try to take as much credit for it as he does.

Yes. Get as many Democratic names on it as possible; amend it to name some rando post-office in Wyoming for goodness sake, just get the name on the bill. Make it clear that Trump's economic message is a Democratic one, not a Republican one. Of course, block all of the social stuff that rode along with it. Trump managed to get into his supporter's minds with his economic populism, and that is how he convinced them of his social agenda. Democrats need to reclaim populism, because it is our to begin with.

[Sprouts Farmers Market ✘]

Democrats won't reclaim populism, they will just make Trump look bipartisan and truthful end route to a landslide re-election, well-deserved as I always imagined

[Sprouts Farmers Market ✘]

Always said this is a modern-day FOR, but I think I set those expectations way too low

[Person Man]

And we can really pull all kinds of stunts on negotiating immigration.

We can negotiate the bill to where there is a path for veterans, those making 50k+ a year, and those who have superior academic achievement and where everyone else has 5 years to leave and can get up to 10000 in relocation assistance and maybe even community resettlement training for those who are refugees. Saying "they need to go home, but we need to give them the ability to do". We will just do to them what Republicans did with Obamacare and if they remove the filibuster, we can always deny them cloture though that didn't work out in the long run in Wisconsin.

[Frodo]

So we're not going to pay Republicans back with the same obstructionist coin? 

So typical of Democrats....   

[Penelope]

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This is the only way.

[Person Man]

So we're not going to pay Republicans back with the same obstructionist coin? 

So typical of Democrats....   

So, if he tries to level with us, demand more?

[ag]

No. The Democratic party should realign itself as a liberal force. Economic issues do not matter at this point: any efforts in this dimension would be, in any case, swamped by the general macroeconomic conditions that will be emerging over the next few months. Particular social issues will, likewise, become of lesser importance, given the overall climate. The defining issues become those of due process, general human rights protection, independence of the media, judiciary, etc. This should allow the Dems to build the minimal platform, which could be used to attract the liberal opposition of all kinds, from Ben Sasse to Bernie Sanders - on the understanding, of course, that this coalition will dissolve once the crisis is over. Only such a broad liberal opposition will have any chance of fighting off the disaster that is upon all of us.

Stop arguing economics: it is of secondary importance now. Anybody, who at this point cares about things like what the top marginal income tax rate should be (whether 20% or 80% or whatever), is being an idiot. Defence of liberalism is the only thing that matters today.

[Confused Democrat]

Yes.

We have to do what is good for this country. It might make Republicans look more effective at governing, but we have to put people ahead of party at some point.

Gridlock is killing this country.

[Cashew]

And if it is all #MAGA stuff, we will obstruct it all. If it is all the economic stuff, we will try to take as much credit for it as he does.

[Jeffster]

Pursuing the same obstructionist path that Republicans took with Obama would be stupid. Obama and the Democrats in Congress were very close on most policy positions, so it made sense for Republicans to gum up the works in blocking everything. On the other hand, Trump and the Republicans in Congress have some big differences on things like infrastructure and trade, so Democrats need to drive a wedge in the Republican party by backing Trump on the more left leaning positions, while blocking him in areas where he and the GOP align. They need to drive a wedge so the Republican establishment challenges Trump in the 2020 Republican primary. We have the chance of Trump becoming the Republican Jimmy Carter if we play it right.

[HagridOfTheDeep]

No compromise, or we turn Trump into a hugely popular Bill Clinton.

[Person Man]

No. The Democratic party should realign itself as a liberal force. Economic issues do not matter at this point: any efforts in this dimension would be, in any case, swamped by the general macroeconomic conditions that will be emerging over the next few months. Particular social issues will, likewise, become of lesser importance, given the overall climate. The defining issues become those of due process, general human rights protection, independence of the media, judiciary, etc. This should allow the Dems to build the minimal platform, which could be used to attract the liberal opposition of all kinds, from Ben Sasse to Bernie Sanders - on the understanding, of course, that this coalition will dissolve once the crisis is over. Only such a broad liberal opposition will have any chance of fighting off the disaster that is upon all of us.

Stop arguing economics: it is of secondary importance now. Anybody, who at this point cares about things like what the top marginal income tax rate should be (whether 20% or 80% or whatever), is being an idiot. Defence of liberalism is the only thing that matters today.

I see how you used the lower l. That is what I was hoping for when Bush started his PATRIOT act nonsense. That's actually how I got into politics.

This is literally the Bush Administration without all the feel good hippy dippy Neocon and Religious crap. Trump is the real sh**t. Yes. I just called neocons hippies and I was thought antiabortionism was just an outlet for rightists to be hippies.