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« Reply #250 on: December 15, 2016, 07:56:00 PM »

The following states have certified (or all but in name) their result along with turnout 2012 and 2016

          2012 turnout        2016 turnout      Diff
AL           58.6%                    58.9%          0.3%
AK          58.7%                    61.3%          2.6%
AZ          52.6%                    54.3%          1.7%
AR          50.7%                    52.6%          1.9%
CA          55.1%                    55.6%          0.5%
CO          69.9%                    69.9%          0.0%
CT          61.3%                    63.9%          2.6%
DE          62.3%                    63.7%          1.4%
DC          61.5%                    60.2%         -1.3%
FL           62.8%                    64.5%          1.7%
GA          59.0%                    58.8%         -0.2%
HI           44.2%                    41.7%         -2.5%
ID           59.8%                    59.4%         -0.4%
IL           58.9%                    61.6%          2.7%
IA           70.3%                     68.2%       -2.1%
KS           56.9%                    57.3%         0.4%
KY           55.7%                    58.7%         3.0%
LA           60.2%                    59.8%        -0.4%
ME          68.2%                    70.7%         2.5%
MD          66.6%                    66.2%        -0.4%
MA          65.9%                    66.8%          0.9%
MI           64.7%                    64.7%        -0.1%
MN          76.0%                    74.1%        -1.9%
MS          59.3%                    55.5%        -3.8%
MO          62.2%                   62.1%         -0.1%
MT          62.5%                    61.5%        -1.0%
NE          60.3%                    62.4%         2.1%
NV          56.4%                    57.1%         0.7%
NH          70.2%                    71.5%         1.3%
NJ           61.5%                    63.6%         2.1%
NM          54.6%                   54.7%         0.1%
NY           53.1%                   55.7%         2.6%
ND          59.3%                    59.1%        -0.2%
OH          64.5%                    62.8%        -1.7%
OK          49.2%                    52.0%         2.8%
OR          63.1%                    66.6%         3.5%
RI           58.0%                    59.0%          1.0%
SC          56.3%                    56.8%          0.5%
SD          59.3%                    58.5%         -0.8%
TN          51.9%                    51.2%         -0.7%
TX          49.6%                     51.2%         1.6%
UT          55.5%                    56.8%          1.3%
VT          60.7%                    63.5%          2.8%
VA          66.1%                    65.7%         -0.4%
WA         64.8%                    65.7%          0.9%
WV         46.3%                    49.9%         3.6%
WI          72.9%                    69.3%        -3.6%
WY         58.6%                    59.4%          0.8%
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« Reply #251 on: December 16, 2016, 03:00:24 PM »

New York State is going to correct the "Vote Counting Error" out of the Bronx per Deputy Director of Public Information Thomas Connolly as well as other "Voting Discrepancies"
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/clinton-is-going-to-gain-nearly-30000-more-votes-over-trump-in-new-york-city/

Connolly says the Cities Numbers are correct.
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« Reply #252 on: December 16, 2016, 06:15:18 PM »
« Edited: December 16, 2016, 06:36:23 PM by bandg »

All states are now certified! And NY has corrected their report (Bronx, New York and Suffolk Counties).

The final numbers I have:

Clinton: 65,844,610 (48.21%)
Trump: 62,979,636 (46.11%)
Johnson: 4,488,912 (3.29%)
Stein: 1,449,364 (1.06%)
All Others: 1,814,100 (1.33%)

Total: 136,576,622
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« Reply #253 on: December 16, 2016, 06:21:29 PM »
« Edited: December 16, 2016, 06:23:06 PM by ○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└ »

Presidential campaigns to break 50 million votes

Obama 2008 69,499,428   
Obama 2012 65,918,507   
Clinton 2016 65,844,610
Trump 2016 62,979,636
Bush 2004 62,039,572   
Romney 2012 60,934,407
McCain 2008 59,950,323   
Kerry 2004 59,027,115   
Reagan 1984 54,455,472
Gore 2000 51,009,810   
Bush 2000 50,462,412   
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« Reply #254 on: December 16, 2016, 08:09:02 PM »

Even more NY votes came in

Based on the current data coming in we have
 
Clinton        65.84 million     48.29%
Trump         62.98 million     46.19%

and then extrapolating based on current vote shares in each state and estimated votes outstanding we currently have

Clinton        65.86 million     48.29%
Trump         62.99 million     46.19%

For a Clinton lead of 2.10%. 

Trump is projected to miss 63 million by 7K
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« Reply #255 on: December 16, 2016, 08:10:53 PM »

Still only IN PA NC are left, in theory.   
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« Reply #256 on: December 17, 2016, 12:00:50 AM »

I'm kind of hoping that Clinton doesn't top Obama 2012 and that Trump fails to hit 63K.
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« Reply #257 on: December 17, 2016, 12:27:05 AM »

The following states have certified (or all but in name) their result along with turnout 2012 and 2016

          2012 turnout        2016 turnout      Diff
AL           58.6%                    58.9%          0.3%
AK          58.7%                    61.3%          2.6%
AZ          52.6%                    54.3%          1.7%
AR          50.7%                    52.6%          1.9%
CA          55.1%                    55.6%          0.5%
CO          69.9%                    69.9%          0.0%
CT          61.3%                    63.9%          2.6%
DE          62.3%                    63.7%          1.4%
DC          61.5%                    60.2%         -1.3%
FL           62.8%                    64.5%          1.7%
GA          59.0%                    58.8%         -0.2%
HI           44.2%                    41.7%         -2.5%
ID           59.8%                    59.4%         -0.4%
IL           58.9%                    61.6%          2.7%
IA           70.3%                     68.2%       -2.1%
KS           56.9%                    57.3%         0.4%
KY           55.7%                    58.7%         3.0%
LA           60.2%                    59.8%        -0.4%
ME          68.2%                    70.7%         2.5%
MD          66.6%                    66.2%        -0.4%
MA          65.9%                    66.8%          0.9%
MI           64.7%                    64.7%        -0.1%
MN          76.0%                    74.1%        -1.9%
MS          59.3%                    55.5%        -3.8%
MO          62.2%                   62.1%         -0.1%
MT          62.5%                    61.5%        -1.0%
NE          60.3%                    62.4%         2.1%
NV          56.4%                    57.1%         0.7%
NH          70.2%                    71.5%         1.3%
NJ           61.5%                    63.6%         2.1%
NM          54.6%                   54.7%         0.1%
NY           53.1%                   55.7%         2.6%
ND          59.3%                    59.1%        -0.2%
OH          64.5%                    62.8%        -1.7%
OK          49.2%                    52.0%         2.8%
OR          63.1%                    66.6%         3.5%
RI           58.0%                    59.0%          1.0%
SC          56.3%                    56.8%          0.5%
SD          59.3%                    58.5%         -0.8%
TN          51.9%                    51.2%         -0.7%
TX          49.6%                     51.2%         1.6%
UT          55.5%                    56.8%          1.3%
VT          60.7%                    63.5%          2.8%
VA          66.1%                    65.7%         -0.4%
WA         64.8%                    65.7%          0.9%
WV         46.3%                    49.9%         3.6%
WI          72.9%                    69.3%        -3.6%
WY         58.6%                    59.4%          0.8%

I have no idea where you are getting this information..... but according to the Oregon Secretary of State website the turnout of registered voters is actually 80.3% and not the 66.6% you have listed....

Not sure if it a typo, or if it is pulled from a bogus website, but the Oregon numbers are straight from the horse's mouth.... it also makes we wonder about the accuracy of the rest of the numbers posted about. Maybe you are posting "eligable voter" numbers instead of registered voter turnout numbers Huh?

http://sos.oregon.gov/elections/Documents/statistics/participation-stats-11-2016.pdf
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« Reply #258 on: December 17, 2016, 12:36:30 AM »

The following states have certified (or all but in name) their result along with turnout 2012 and 2016

I have no idea where you are getting this information..... but according to the Oregon Secretary of State website the turnout of registered voters is actually 80.3% and not the 66.6% you have listed....

Not sure if it a typo, or if it is pulled from a bogus website, but the Oregon numbers are straight from the horse's mouth.... it also makes we wonder about the accuracy of the rest of the numbers posted about. Maybe you are posting "eligable voter" numbers instead of registered voter turnout numbers Huh?

http://sos.oregon.gov/elections/Documents/statistics/participation-stats-11-2016.pdf

Registered voter (turnout) numbers are misleading.

Turnout is always based on the VEP (voting eligible population) to compare US numbers with European or other turnout.

The number of registered voters in the US is significantly lower than the VEP, therefore the turnout among RV is much higher and misleading. Many people in the US who are eligible simply are not registered to vote.
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« Reply #259 on: December 17, 2016, 12:43:03 AM »

The following states have certified (or all but in name) their result along with turnout 2012 and 2016

I have no idea where you are getting this information..... but according to the Oregon Secretary of State website the turnout of registered voters is actually 80.3% and not the 66.6% you have listed....

Not sure if it a typo, or if it is pulled from a bogus website, but the Oregon numbers are straight from the horse's mouth.... it also makes we wonder about the accuracy of the rest of the numbers posted about. Maybe you are posting "eligable voter" numbers instead of registered voter turnout numbers Huh?

http://sos.oregon.gov/elections/Documents/statistics/participation-stats-11-2016.pdf

Registered voter (turnout) numbers are misleading.

Turnout is always based on the VEP (voting eligible population) to compare US numbers with European or other turnout.

The number of registered voters in the US is significantly lower than the VEP, therefore the turnout among RV is much higher and misleading. Many people in the US who are eligible simply are not registered to vote.

ok--- so basically what I suspected when reviewing the list....

I'm still a bit surprised at the Oregon numbers, since we have an automatic DMV registration deal for new voters and those that have to change their stuff with the DMV, however maybe it's a lag since we have something like a seven year period before people need to renew their driver's licenses.... still surprised that turnout would be higher in Colorado.... doesn't totally make sense, but I'll give you NH because of the culture of voter registration out there... Wink
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« Reply #260 on: December 17, 2016, 12:50:20 AM »

The following states have certified (or all but in name) their result along with turnout 2012 and 2016

I have no idea where you are getting this information..... but according to the Oregon Secretary of State website the turnout of registered voters is actually 80.3% and not the 66.6% you have listed....

Not sure if it a typo, or if it is pulled from a bogus website, but the Oregon numbers are straight from the horse's mouth.... it also makes we wonder about the accuracy of the rest of the numbers posted about. Maybe you are posting "eligable voter" numbers instead of registered voter turnout numbers Huh?

http://sos.oregon.gov/elections/Documents/statistics/participation-stats-11-2016.pdf

Registered voter (turnout) numbers are misleading.

Turnout is always based on the VEP (voting eligible population) to compare US numbers with European or other turnout.

The number of registered voters in the US is significantly lower than the VEP, therefore the turnout among RV is much higher and misleading. Many people in the US who are eligible simply are not registered to vote.

ok--- so basically what I suspected when reviewing the list....

I'm still a bit surprised at the Oregon numbers, since we have an automatic DMV registration deal for new voters and those that have to change their stuff with the DMV, however maybe it's a lag since we have something like a seven year period before people need to renew their driver's licenses.... still surprised that turnout would be higher in Colorado.... doesn't totally make sense, but I'll give you NH because of the culture of voter registration out there... Wink

As you can see in your link, not even OR with its new automatic DMV registration system is able to register all eligible voters.

There are still about 360.000 people who are eligible and not registered.

A good thing would be to register people to vote already when they are born in a hospital, when they pass their citizenship exams, the DMV, when they apply for federal or state aid such as unemployment services etc.

You would get very close to 100% after a while ...
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« Reply #261 on: December 17, 2016, 07:44:28 AM »
« Edited: December 17, 2016, 09:08:13 AM by jaichind »

Looks like there are no more NC votes unlike what I though.  So the result is pretty much going to be:
 
Clinton        65.845 million     48.25%
Trump         62.980 million     46.15%

For a Clinton lead of 2.10%

Of course the total method I use does not count the write-ins which are not listed on the SOS sites but uselectionatlas includes.  States which large number of such votes are AZ CA FL GA IL NJ OH WA
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« Reply #262 on: December 17, 2016, 09:09:23 AM »

There are still inconsistent numbers for WA and NY as far as write-ins are concerned.
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« Reply #263 on: December 21, 2016, 11:53:23 AM »

It seems there are no more votes left ... ?

(NY still counted 100.000s more votes after they sent their certificate to the Archive, so I'm asking.)
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