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« on: November 10, 2016, 11:44:56 PM »

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« Reply #1 on: November 10, 2016, 11:55:14 PM »

Has Trump shown any interest in trying to stop states from legalizing it?
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« Reply #2 on: November 10, 2016, 11:57:48 PM »

What are Trumps views on a psychoactive drugs which result in distortion of perception, euphoria (heightened mood), and an increase in appetite?
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« Reply #3 on: November 11, 2016, 03:28:05 AM »

Christie wants to ban it, even medical marijuana I think
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« Reply #4 on: November 11, 2016, 03:41:38 AM »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8RU69gzQbeM
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« Reply #5 on: November 11, 2016, 04:06:36 AM »

Hopefully Chris Christie becomes AG and starts enforcing drug laws in this country.
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« Reply #6 on: November 11, 2016, 04:09:41 AM »

Hopefully Chris Christie becomes AG and starts enforcing drug laws in this country.
Bring it on. You can take our Marijuana from our cold, dead hands.

But seriously, the Republicans need to suppress the millenial vote, not energize it.
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« Reply #7 on: November 11, 2016, 04:38:16 AM »

I can't imagine AG Giuliani being down with legal weed

But go ahead, try to undermine state authority, start a likely Supreme Court battle, to overturn a popular referendum. LITERALLY the will of the voters. I'll still be able to find weed, but a bunch of people will lose their jobs, green card patient will lose a form of medicine (Just buy painkillers! Oh also you no longer have healthcare.)
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« Reply #8 on: November 11, 2016, 06:03:47 AM »

What an odd question, Hillary hates weed and Trump doesn't really care.  Not that I think she would have done anything negative about it either, the youth hated her enough already. 

Neither of them is smart enough to end the war on drugs.  If Obama couldn't figure it out, the Clown in Chief we get now certainly won't.
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« Reply #9 on: November 11, 2016, 08:58:28 AM »


It grows, it gets harvested and dried, then it gets torched. 
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« Reply #10 on: November 11, 2016, 09:03:48 AM »

I can't see how him going Full Arpaio on it does him any favors. If he does, that is just part of the steady drip we have been seeing lately to more and more unrest. 
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« Reply #11 on: November 11, 2016, 10:58:06 AM »

Hopefully black market prices drop a bit.
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« Reply #12 on: November 11, 2016, 04:27:43 PM »


Passed in my state.

They need to leave it alone...why waste time on such small potatoes, when you can ram through a pipeline down the throats of Native Americans!

Go Trump Team!
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« Reply #13 on: November 11, 2016, 04:34:47 PM »

Trump seems pretty detached from social issues. He knows the winds of change are blowing on this issue. He'll make sure the wind catches in his sails.

Will he outright legalize it? No. Will he work for Criminal Justice reform? Maybe, hopefully, at some point. Will he turn back the clock like Chris Christie wanted to? Not a chance.
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« Reply #14 on: November 11, 2016, 06:28:50 PM »
« Edited: November 11, 2016, 06:35:46 PM by eric82oslo »

Has Trump shown any interest in trying to stop states from legalizing it?

Bill Maher comes to mind. Maher is if anything his number two in this world on his enemy list after Rosie O'Donnell. And to be honest, if he had been female, he would definitely have been number one, way ahead of Rosie.
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« Reply #15 on: November 11, 2016, 06:32:32 PM »

Christie wants to ban it, even medical marijuana I think

Yeah, Christie is in fact so nazi on the subject that he almost punched a female voter in his home state in the face because she raised her voice and could not understand why her epiliptic child should not be helped by cannabis oil, and what exactly was so inherently evil about allowing it. There's not for any reason that the GOP marijuana champion number one, Rand Paul is by far Christie's biggest enemy, even bigger in fact than Marco Rubio, and that says quite a lot (especially considering he's not a corrupt, mafiotic beast like Christie).
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« Reply #16 on: November 11, 2016, 06:35:19 PM »

Keep in mind there's a not-tiny group of GOP Senators who are supportive of a state's rights approach to this - Gardner, Sullivan, Daines, Paul, etc. it's the Sessions old guard we watch out for
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« Reply #17 on: November 11, 2016, 06:53:03 PM »

The idea that Trump will wage a war on pot is ludicrous. My concerns about his Presidency lie elsewhere. I hope he proves better than my fears, now that what he does will affect his reputation in the history books. To me, having a good reputation is the most important thing of all, with your neighbors, with your community, etc. Keep hope alive!
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« Reply #18 on: November 11, 2016, 08:19:20 PM »

Is it just me or is there no way Christie becomes AG. Christie is Trumps bitch and he won't get any important positions in the cabinet. Just watch the body language between them during his victory speech. Trump doesn't respect him.
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« Reply #19 on: November 11, 2016, 08:53:57 PM »

Is it just me or is there no way Christie becomes AG. Christie is Trumps bitch and he won't get any important positions in the cabinet. Just watch the body language between them during his victory speech. Trump doesn't respect him.

Since when does Trump respect anyone? If anything he respects his own running mate Pence even less. He only mentioned his name once after about twenty minutes in the very own press conference if whole idea and purpose was to introduce him to the nation and the world. And in his speech after he had beaten Hillary, he didn't even mention or thank Pence once, not even once, despite him standing right there next to him, only a few meters away, listening to everything he said.
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« Reply #20 on: November 11, 2016, 09:05:31 PM »

Trump might take away Obamacare from Blacks, he might even sent police on 'em, but he is smart enough to NOT take away drugs that make 'em cooool.
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« Reply #21 on: November 12, 2016, 02:14:14 AM »

Hang on, isn't there an obvious, obvious answer to this?

Trump has been elected on a platform of 'Successful Businessman in Charge of our Economy'. I can imagine what a successful businessman would do under this paradigm is encourage the start-up of marijuana growing farms, cooperatives, distribution networks and shops, thus effectively generating income and jobs, lowering prices through a fair market, increasing tax revenue and reducing criminality in the system. It would also increase our competitiveness with our southern neighbors and reduce stresses on the border force.

Its win-win-win
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« Reply #22 on: November 13, 2016, 07:57:29 AM »

Any attempt to get it banned nationally ends up in the Supreme Court and the Court rules in favour of states' rights on the matter.
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« Reply #23 on: November 13, 2016, 12:21:10 PM »

Any attempt to get it banned nationally ends up in the Supreme Court and the Court rules in favour of states' rights on the matter.

It already is banned nationally, though. The expansion of the interpretation of the interstate commerce clause gives teeth to the Controlled Substances Act. A challenge to the federal government's ability to regulate cannabis would, imo, be a grave mistake as worst case, it leads to a broad restriction of federal power and best case, it guts the CSA and drug enforcement becomes a free-for-all.

As it stands now, the DEA, due to the supremacy clause, is free to target cannabis shops, growers & users as much as it wants and due to the commandeering clause, cannot force states to help it enforce its will. The end result is that it probably becomes impossible to legally buy marijuana and that proprietors of the herb are better off waiting until we get a new president than risk some game-changing legal challenge.
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« Reply #24 on: November 13, 2016, 12:24:41 PM »

Any attempt to get it banned nationally ends up in the Supreme Court and the Court rules in favour of states' rights on the matter.

It's a Schedule I Controlled Substance and has been for over 40 years. The Obama Administration has simply been choosing not to enforce the law in states that have legalized. The question is whether the Trump Justice Department (likely headed by Rudy Giuliani) does the same.
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