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« on: November 11, 2016, 06:19:00 AM »

They are California, Delaware, Oregon, Hawaii, and Rhode Island.
Congrats, 3rd way, keep up the great work.

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« Reply #1 on: November 11, 2016, 07:25:40 AM »

Wow - Congrats Debbie, Donna, Obama & Hillary.

The party of FDR has been led to the ground - Unless you people step aside & let strong progressives take over, the party faces ruin!
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« Reply #2 on: November 11, 2016, 07:27:02 AM »

Technically they control Connecticut as well (LG will break the tie in the Senate), but the point still stands.
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« Reply #3 on: November 11, 2016, 07:34:17 AM »

Hopefully that will change come 2018, just like it did in 2010 (but opposite).
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« Reply #4 on: November 11, 2016, 11:51:01 AM »

Not only that. A special election come next year could give the GOP some more power in Delaware. Same actually goes for the GOP in Washington State where the Democrats could take back the State Senate in a special election.
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« Reply #5 on: November 11, 2016, 12:53:15 PM »

Not only that. A special election come next year could give the GOP some more power in Delaware. Same actually goes for the GOP in Washington State where the Democrats could take back the State Senate in a special election.

The open seat in DE is very very Dem.
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« Reply #6 on: November 11, 2016, 08:39:23 PM »

NY state senate is up in the air.   If it goes Dem it will give Dem complete control.  In theory it is Dem 31 GOP 30 with a Dem rebels who will caucus with GOP giving GOP control.  Problem is one GOP win is very narrow and a recount could give it to the Dems even though it is unlikely.  It is a miracle that the GOP did so well given Trump is at the top of the ticket.  They did it mostly by holding to most of Upstate NY gains in 2014.
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« Reply #7 on: November 11, 2016, 10:24:18 PM »

Hopefully that will change come 2018, just like it did in 2010 (but opposite).

But aren't there around 15-20 states legislatures/assemblies that are mixed? It's not like Dems are completely shut out of the rest of the states, they either have the governor's seat or the chamber are mixed so I"m not terribly alarmed.

'18 could be quite the year for Dems depending on how thing go the next two years: ME, MA, NH, VA, NJ, NV, WI, MI, and maybe even AZ and OH since they usually elect governors from the opposite party in the WH. Maybe FL if they can get their act together and who knows about KY in '19.

It's also looking more and more like Cooper is going to unseat McCrory in NC.
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« Reply #8 on: November 11, 2016, 11:31:04 PM »

They are California, Delaware, Oregon, Hawaii, and Rhode Island.
Congrats, 3rd way, keep up the great work.



Yikes, since Calif. has non-partisan redistricting, the only state where Dems could gain in theory is Oregon, though unlikely since OR-2 makes geographic sense.
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« Reply #9 on: November 11, 2016, 11:39:21 PM »

California should give up non-partisan redistricting. No sense in unilaterally disarming,
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« Reply #10 on: November 12, 2016, 01:14:07 AM »

California should give up non-partisan redistricting. No sense in unilaterally disarming,

Absolutely disagree. Ihate ANY sort of gerrymandering, and my wish is non-partisan redistricting in 50 states. Besides, it would be difficult to get MUCH more from already very Democratic California except for absolutely horrendous gerrymandering. 2-3 districts in House most...
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« Reply #11 on: November 12, 2016, 03:53:01 AM »

California should give up non-partisan redistricting. No sense in unilaterally disarming,

I don't want to go back to sharing a district with San Clemente, 60 miles away
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« Reply #12 on: November 12, 2016, 09:05:37 PM »

They are California, Delaware, Oregon, Hawaii, and Rhode Island.
Congrats, 3rd way, keep up the great work.



Yikes, since Calif. has non-partisan redistricting, the only state where Dems could gain in theory is Oregon, though unlikely since OR-2 makes geographic sense.

Well in Oregon, Dems could unpack the third district and bolster the 4th and 5th.
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« Reply #13 on: November 12, 2016, 09:07:02 PM »

At least we'll probably get a lot of governorships back in 2018.
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« Reply #14 on: November 12, 2016, 09:46:48 PM »

It would be interesting if nonpartisan committees made their maps to counteract imbalances in other states, rather than just to balance that particular state.
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« Reply #15 on: November 12, 2016, 10:25:23 PM »

We will see major gains in 2018.
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« Reply #16 on: November 13, 2016, 01:48:21 AM »

lol, I knew jfern would only return if Trump won.
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« Reply #17 on: November 13, 2016, 02:12:52 AM »

California had bipartisan gerrymandering, where Republicans had given up on ever having an inkling of power again, so they agreed to the pro-Democratic districts so long as their incumbents were protected.
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« Reply #18 on: November 13, 2016, 12:10:43 PM »

California should give up non-partisan redistricting. No sense in unilaterally disarming,

Hmmm... if Democrats lose the House while getting more votes again in 2018, I think such a referendum could actually pass in 2020.  And the way things are going, it might be possible to draw a 50D/3R map by then!

That would be amazing and proper justice.
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« Reply #19 on: November 13, 2016, 03:32:50 PM »

California should give up non-partisan redistricting. No sense in unilaterally disarming,

I don't want to go back to sharing a district with San Clemente, 60 miles away

I share a Senate District with freaking Alturas right now. Pretty sure I did before redistricting though.
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« Reply #20 on: November 13, 2016, 04:34:48 PM »

Illinois is controlled by Democrats
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« Reply #21 on: November 13, 2016, 04:35:54 PM »

Illinois is controlled by Democrats

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« Reply #22 on: November 13, 2016, 04:58:20 PM »

Wow - Congrats Debbie, Donna, Obama & Hillary.

The party of FDR has been led to the ground - Unless you people step aside & let strong progressives take over, the party faces ruin!
We do need to find a new progressive majority, if that is at all possible. But it needs to be a populist one as well, without being as divisive as Trump-populism.
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« Reply #23 on: November 14, 2016, 01:01:28 PM »

California should give up non-partisan redistricting. No sense in unilaterally disarming,

Don't worry. If VRA2 is not repealed, the new Department of Justice will make sure that whites get proper VRA districts in California.

There's no history of white people in California or much of anywhere else having systematic trouble voting or getting their interests represented in Congress. But you know that.
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« Reply #24 on: November 14, 2016, 01:22:23 PM »

Isn't it 6 by any measure (HI, CA, OR, DE, CT, RI), and 8 if you consider places where Democrats have veto-proof majorities over Republican Governors, and thus can pass whatever legislation they want (also MD, MA)?

Of course for Republicans it is 25 by the first measure and 27 by the second.
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