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Hammy
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« Reply #25 on: November 12, 2016, 03:29:18 PM »

People wanted Bernie to campaign after screwing her over & his supporters to come over but they won't do sh**t for Zephyr or Russ Feingold & neither would support him.

People like Hagrid & Lief are the reason the Democratic party is on the verge of ruin & this forum Atlas has 0 Credibility today - You chose the most unelectable & hated candidate in modern US history.

If the Dem party is to survive & go ahead, then the party has to be purged of this kind of people - I have been saying time & again they belong to the modern Republican party or be independent or whatever - They don't belong to the Dem party anymore!

Umm, she got more votes

That is what I said you guys CHOSE her in the primaries - a candidate considered dishonest, corrupt, uncaring, uncharismatic, uninspiring & a lier by a large section of the GE!

The primary voters couldn't be this oblivious to her faults!

I think he was talking about the general election PV.
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« Reply #26 on: November 12, 2016, 03:31:33 PM »

People wanted Bernie to campaign after screwing her over & his supporters to come over but they won't do sh**t for Zephyr or Russ Feingold & neither would support him.

People like Hagrid & Lief are the reason the Democratic party is on the verge of ruin & this forum Atlas has 0 Credibility today - You chose the most unelectable & hated candidate in modern US history.

If the Dem party is to survive & go ahead, then the party has to be purged of this kind of people - I have been saying time & again they belong to the modern Republican party or be independent or whatever - They don't belong to the Dem party anymore!

Umm, she got more votes

That is what I said you guys CHOSE her in the primaries - a candidate considered dishonest, corrupt, uncaring, uncharismatic, uninspiring & a lier by a large section of the GE!

The primary voters couldn't be this oblivious to her faults!

I think he was talking about the general election PV.

And that didn't win her the electoral college did it? MI WI & PA really?
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« Reply #27 on: November 12, 2016, 04:41:09 PM »

No PR you weren't wrong.

This was a Republican year from the start, as soon as the bench was announced it was quite obvious where this was headed.

It's actually testament to how bad both campaigns were and objectively better Hillary was that it was this close.

Sure, Sanders could've gotten the Midwest, but his clear problems with minorities would've cost him Virginia and Nevada, Florida wouldn't have flipped, and Ohio  probably would've been lost by Kerry margins instead...so he would've lost the PV AND the EV.

They would've found some dirt, and the old, tired whites would still recoil at a "socialist" inherently.

Berniecratism is like Reaganomics back in the 70's, needs validation first to work.

2016 is just a Republican's 1976 with some polarization thrown in, and this paradox is no exception.
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« Reply #28 on: November 12, 2016, 07:02:38 PM »

There's too much emphasis on white working class voters. Yes, their swing was the story of the election, but they're only about a third of the electorate. I doubt Sanders would have done as well as Clinton among minorities and college educated voters.
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« Reply #29 on: November 13, 2016, 11:42:21 AM »

There's too much emphasis on white working class voters. Yes, their swing was the story of the election, but they're only about a third of the electorate. I doubt Sanders would have done as well as Clinton among minorities and college educated voters.

Unfortunately for Democrats, minorities and college educated voters (at least, college educated Democratic voters) are concentrated in states that are either solidly Democratic in presidential elections or at the very least, seem to be on their way to that status (see: Colorado).
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« Reply #30 on: November 13, 2016, 02:00:00 PM »

I don't know where this idea of minorities is coming.

Clinton did poorly among minorities compared to Obama with a severe gap on enthusiasm. How on earth did Trump beat Romney's Hispanic numbers?

How on earth can Sanders do worse? Any ways most of the exit poll showed that Sanders was completely holding his own minorities in GE head to head match-up & bringing more millennials & white working class & independents - The reason he led so much.

When has the Black not voted for a Dem? Especially a Dem who has gone to jail protesting segregation?
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« Reply #31 on: November 13, 2016, 02:03:06 PM »

When has the Black not voted for a Dem? Especially a Dem who has gone to jail protesting segregation?

The Clintons had longtime ties to Black political community on national level. Sanders hadn't, mostly because his own home state has a very small Black population.
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