The Next DNC Chair: TOM PEREZ WINS, makes Ellison deputy chair

[Trapsy]

The crazy thing about Perez being chair is he actually never held elected office. Hes gonna need a lot of help.

But he HAS run a large bureaucracy, in the Labour department

but still it doesn't mean that experience will transfer over to winning elections. That's why I said he will need a lot of help to understand elections.

[Roronoa D. Law]

Perez just stated a goal for 57 strong state parties. LOL.

All the states and territories. What is wrong in saying that

He said the word state. And no, no one is going to make the Northern Mariana Islands or the U.S. Virgin Islands a state, sorry.

Really I thought it would be number 2 on the list of amendments to pass if Democrats control 2/3 of state legislatures. You know after they abolish the EC.

[Doimper]

The crazy thing about Perez being chair is he actually never held elected office. Hes gonna need a lot of help.

Perez was on the Montgomery County Council and it is not uncommon for party officials to have little to no elected experience.

Exhibit A: Reince Priebus, who built his career entirely within the Republican Party administrative apparatus.

[ApatheticAustrian]

if reince priebus is meant to be a good example for winning, it means be ready to kill all your values for victory.

i am not so sure this is what the perez-critics would wish for.

[Maxwell]

It's not a big deal, but disappointing nevertheless.

[Antonio the Sixth]

An olive branch means absolutely nothing. But please delude yourselves, we'll need the full eight years.

besides trolling...you are so afraid of - not my words - a(nother) socialist black muslim to crush your president?

They may get 8 years but the Democrats will probably own the generation beyond Trump/Pence. This election is a very small harbinger of that.

muh coalition of the emergents

Nothing about demographic changes. It's more the economic changes coming that kill the Republicans. Calm down.

What economic changes, the destruction of the American middle-class and rise of mass poverty? This clearly didn't help Democrats in 2016.

Not really the thread to have this discussion but your stated factors will certainly intensify in the coming years and that's why Bernie has become an integral force in the Democratic Party today. His candidate won 200 delegates and that's a highly decent showing. The winner is a strong populist progressive who laid out some of the most progressive elements of Barack Obama's administration.

The Democrats are a rising economically populist coalition (Bernie will propel them there) who are about 4-12 years from replacing the Reagan neoliberal coalition.

I hope you're right, but I have a hard time being so optimistic right now. Democrats seem bent on doubling down with becoming the party of the upper-middle-class.

[Trapsy]

The crazy thing about Perez being chair is he actually never held elected office. Hes gonna need a lot of help.

Perez was on the Montgomery County Council and it is not uncommon for party officials to have little to no elected experience.

Exhibit A: Reince Priebus, who built his career entirely within the Republican Party administrative apparatus.

My only concern is about the DNC being used as the main tool to build state parties rather than an institution for allocating resources to state parties.

[GoTfan]

I wonder how much power Keith will have as deputy

Please. Perez will do everything possible to make sure his influence is minimal.

[jojoju1998]

I wonder how much power Keith will have as deputy

Please. Perez will do everything possible to make sure his influence is minimal.

Why don't you have any Faith in Tom Perez ? He seems like a Gracious Person and it looks like he and Keith Ellison really respect each other.

[Confused Democrat]

Just take a look at the forums that Sanders supporters frequent, and you'll see that this isn't going over well. #unity right?

You might think they're being unreasonable, but Perez was objectively the worst choice for party unity. This is eerily similar to the 2016 primaries.

I'll probably never leave the Democratic Party, but this was just the wrong move strategically. Also, the self-righteous and paternalistic attitude that a lot of the red avatars are taking towards the Bernie wing of the party is not helpful in the slightest.

[MASHED POTATOES. VOTE!]

They hadn't learned a thing.

[ApatheticAustrian]

https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/835594031870664704


this becomes a commong thing now, i guess....remember when WL used to be about transparency and not politics?

[Antonio the Sixth]

https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/835594031870664704


this becomes a commong thing now, i guess....remember when WL used to be about transparency and not politics?

Honestly, I say bring it on Julian.

We need to defeat the Democratic elites before we can take on the Republican ones.

[jojoju1998]

They hadn't learned a thing.

Well I might be jumping over to the Democratic Side so at least the Democratic Party got one new Member.

[The_Doctor]

https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/835594031870664704


this becomes a commong thing now, i guess....remember when WL used to be about transparency and not politics?

I see the monthly checks from Moscow are continuing.

[MASHED POTATOES. VOTE!]

https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/835594031870664704


this becomes a commong thing now, i guess....remember when WL used to be about transparency and not politics?

Honestly, I say bring it on Julian.

We need to defeat the Democratic elites before we can take on the Republican ones.

This is still Hillary party: they all live in a bloody bubble.

[Trapsy]

Just take a look at the forums that Sanders supporters frequent, and you'll see that this isn't going over well. #unity right?

You might think they're being unreasonable, but Perez was objectively the worst choice for party unity. This is eerily similar to the 2016 primaries.

I'll probably never leave the Democratic Party, but this was just the wrong move strategically. Also, the self-righteous and paternalistic attitude that a lot of the red avatars are taking towards the Bernie wing of the party is not helpful in the slightest.

I actually didn't think both of them would really bring fresh ideas to the chair but I would have still given it to Ellison just to smooth out the skepticism from the sanders wing. Perez entering the race made no sense at all. Thats why you have Schumer trying to get Ellison elected because he knew this would set us back when unity is what we need the most.

[The_Doctor]

An olive branch means absolutely nothing. But please delude yourselves, we'll need the full eight years.

besides trolling...you are so afraid of - not my words - a(nother) socialist black muslim to crush your president?

They may get 8 years but the Democrats will probably own the generation beyond Trump/Pence. This election is a very small harbinger of that.

muh coalition of the emergents

Nothing about demographic changes. It's more the economic changes coming that kill the Republicans. Calm down.

What economic changes, the destruction of the American middle-class and rise of mass poverty? This clearly didn't help Democrats in 2016.

Not really the thread to have this discussion but your stated factors will certainly intensify in the coming years and that's why Bernie has become an integral force in the Democratic Party today. His candidate won 200 delegates and that's a highly decent showing. The winner is a strong populist progressive who laid out some of the most progressive elements of Barack Obama's administration.

The Democrats are a rising economically populist coalition (Bernie will propel them there) who are about 4-12 years from replacing the Reagan neoliberal coalition.

I hope you're right, but I have a hard time being so optimistic right now. Democrats seem bent on doubling down with becoming the party of the upper-middle-class.

Transitions from minority to majority political coalitions are never clean, have a lot of hurt feelings, and etc etc.

FWIW, the race between a black Muslim versus a Latino Catholic (in think) looks a lot like the America coming down the pike so that's something to think about too.

[ApatheticAustrian]

the trick is to increase the bubble without bursting it.

[jojoju1998]

An olive branch means absolutely nothing. But please delude yourselves, we'll need the full eight years.

besides trolling...you are so afraid of - not my words - a(nother) socialist black muslim to crush your president?

They may get 8 years but the Democrats will probably own the generation beyond Trump/Pence. This election is a very small harbinger of that.

muh coalition of the emergents

Nothing about demographic changes. It's more the economic changes coming that kill the Republicans. Calm down.

What economic changes, the destruction of the American middle-class and rise of mass poverty? This clearly didn't help Democrats in 2016.

Not really the thread to have this discussion but your stated factors will certainly intensify in the coming years and that's why Bernie has become an integral force in the Democratic Party today. His candidate won 200 delegates and that's a highly decent showing. The winner is a strong populist progressive who laid out some of the most progressive elements of Barack Obama's administration.

The Democrats are a rising economically populist coalition (Bernie will propel them there) who are about 4-12 years from replacing the Reagan neoliberal coalition.

I hope you're right, but I have a hard time being so optimistic right now. Democrats seem bent on doubling down with becoming the party of the upper-middle-class.

Transitions from minority to majority political coalitions are never clean, have a lot of hurt feelings, and etc etc.

FWIW, the race between a black Muslim versus a Latino Catholic (in think) looks a lot like the America coming down the pike so that's something to think about too.

Besides, Maybe Tom Perez will not support TPP. I think the only reason why Perez even supported TPP was because of Obama.

[Maxwell]

https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/835594031870664704


this becomes a commong thing now, i guess....remember when WL used to be about transparency and not politics?

Honestly, I say bring it on Julian.

We need to defeat the Democratic elites before we can take on the Republican ones.

This is still Hillary party: they all live in a bloody bubble.

Perez was almost entirely the Obama choice, the Clinton crowd was divided between Ellison and Perez.

[Chief Justice Keef]

https://twitter.com/demsocialists/status/835585894627233792

2018, Dems, it's coming.

[Trapsy]

The one thing Republicans do well is they flow with the movements despite how toxic they think it could be.

[ApatheticAustrian]

ttp is now a chinese treaty, which is going to kill us influence in half the world, forget it.

[GoTfan]

Just take a look at the forums that Sanders supporters frequent, and you'll see that this isn't going over well. #unity right?

You might think they're being unreasonable, but Perez was objectively the worst choice for party unity. This is eerily similar to the 2016 primaries.

I'll probably never leave the Democratic Party, but this was just the wrong move strategically. Also, the self-righteous and paternalistic attitude that a lot of the red avatars are taking towards the Bernie wing of the party is not helpful in the slightest.

I actually didn't think both of them would really bring fresh ideas to the chair but I would have still given it to Ellison just to smooth out the skepticism from the sanders wing. Perez entering the race made no sense at all. Thats why you have Schumer trying to get Ellison elected because he knew this would set us back when unity is what we need the most.

That's the thing. If Ellison and Perez were so similar, as I hear so often, then why did Perez enter the race after Ellison announced?

Answer: Obama and Clinton want to maintain as much control as possible.