The Next DNC Chair: TOM PEREZ WINS, makes Ellison deputy chair

[smoltchanov]

Ellison is a smug, overconfident extreme elitist. That's a good reflection of present day Democratic party. A mirror image of Republicans: as French Bourbons of 19th century they "forgot nothing and learned nothing". If 2016 (after 2010 and 2014) didn't taught Democrats anything - they are, probably, as hopeless as Republicans are..

Which of his statements make you think that he's a smug elitist?

More behavoir. He doesn't want to recognize (though Minnesota gave ample examples this year) that Democratic party is not only minorities and well-to-do social liberals. Minnesota seems limited to Minneapolis and St. Paul to him. A man, who seems to relish isolated life in well-equipped "ivory tower" of his, and is utterly unable to expand the Democratic "big tent" or return voters, who defected to Trump this year . On the contrary - he seems to care about "ultraprogressives" like himself only.. I don't even speak about possible problems with Jewish Democrats (one of last white groups still mostly loyal to party) under his leadership and past statements, bordering on direct antisemitism.

[Shameless Lefty Hack]

More behavoir. He doesn't want to recognize (though Minnesota gave ample examples this year) that Democratic party is not only minorities and well-to-do social liberals. Minnesota seems limited to Minneapolis and St. Paul to him. A man, who seems to relish isolated life in well-equipped "ivory tower" of his, and is utterly unable to expand the Democratic "big tent" or return voters, who defected to Trump this year . On the contrary - he seems to care about "ultraprogressives" like himself only.. I don't even speak about possible problems with Jewish Democrats (one of last white groups still mostly loyal to party) under his leadership and past statements, bordering on direct antisemitism.

Uhh, he's a Congressman from MSP. Which Congresspeople do you know that go outside of their district routinely?

Also, have you been to MSP recently? While it's a very nice metro, it isn't exactly an ivory tower full of rich limousine liberals.

Here's a direct quote from his platform:
"We must energize Democratic activists across the country and give them the tools to build the Party from the bottom up. Beyond a 50-state strategy, we need a 3,143-county strategy. DNC members are on the front lines in these states and counties, and we must harness your experience and give you a meaningful voice as we set the direction for the Party. In a DNC Chair, you need a partner and an advocate who will ensure you have the resources you need to win.
We must also reclaim our history as the Party that stands with working people."

Also, not to mention, while I think we need to convince some portion of Trump voters to come back into the fold the *FAR* bigger problem was that Clinton simply didn't motivate working class voters that already liked Dems to come out and vote. By the numbers, Clinton lost *WAY * more working class votes to staying at home than Trump gained over Romney this cycle.

[The Other Castro]

Ellison finally takes the plunge: "I will resign my seat if I win DNC Chair"

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http://www.startribune.com/rep-keith-ellison-i-will-resign-my-seat-if-i-win-dnc-chair/405232966/

[KingSweden]

Ellison finally takes the plunge: "I will resign my seat if I win DNC Chair"

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http://www.startribune.com/rep-keith-ellison-i-will-resign-my-seat-if-i-win-dnc-chair/405232966/

Good. I'm agnostic about this election now, and it sounds like he supports a Dean-style strategy too. It's a good sign he saw the writing on the wall.

[Dr. Arch]

Ellison finally takes the plunge: "I will resign my seat if I win DNC Chair"

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http://www.startribune.com/rep-keith-ellison-i-will-resign-my-seat-if-i-win-dnc-chair/405232966/

Good. I'm agnostic about this election now, and it sounds like he supports a Dean-style strategy too. It's a good sign he saw the writing on the wall.

I was about to post this. It's a great thing actually.

[Beet]

I fully support Ellison for chair, although I do have some concerns about his past anti-Semitic associations.

[Make My Bank Account Great Again]

Ellison finally takes the plunge: "I will resign my seat if I win DNC Chair"

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http://www.startribune.com/rep-keith-ellison-i-will-resign-my-seat-if-i-win-dnc-chair/405232966/

Great news! 🇺🇸

[publicunofficial]

Yeah, Ellison's willingness to resign his seat removes my only real objection to his candidacy.

Listened to an interview with Ellison the other day where he advocated, among other things, creating a Democratic version of ALEC. Very, very good idea.

[OSR stands with Israel]

With this, I remain a believer in the concept of the Jewish, Israeli state, but it should've been socialist, actual egalitarian socialism (mapam), and Israel wouldn't be as such segregated and discriminatory to the Palestinian People.

(Ignoring the normal, ugly, Israel vs Palestinians arguments in this thread)

I understand your point of view as a Socialist, but Mapam was at times a low point for Israeli democracy (though the current government is trying really hard to compete). Their almost absolute power harmed the freedom of speech and created a nest of corruption and discrimination towards Jewish immigrants from Muslim countries. In the end, their slight authoritainism sewed the seeds of some characteristics of current Israeli society that I dislike, like the sanctifying of the army and anything related to it, the corrupt primaries in the major parties, that are controlled by special interest groups, and some generally corrupt and disfunctional systems (like the Broadcasting Authority and the main labour unions).

They were the only one's that had Palestinian members, had a policy for co-existence, and didn't support the expulsion of Palestinian from their lands, causing the problems they had, a lot of which Mapai did or didn't support. I believe if Mapam had been elected, Israel and Palestine would've been a been a better place, though more soviet-orientated it would have been. I really don't understand how a party that only once got second place had absolute control

Oh, I thought you argued for Mapai, not Mapam. Sorry.
In that case, I'm of the opinion that it would've been even worse. It's a fact that the Arabic countries at the time weren't willing to allow Israel to exist, so while Mapam might have been more compassionate for the Palestinians, they would still have to fight for survival. And if they got close to the Soviets, they would probably lose, because the Soviets favoured the more numerous Arabic countries while America was willing to support Israel. Not gonna delve into who's right and who's wrong, but the US was absolutely vital for the survival of Israel in the October War.

If you had a socialist Israel, that allowed the support for the Palestinian people and had USSR support, would the Arab nations attacked it? Mapam were the only one fighting for a egalitarian, equal Israel, while other parties were fine in treating Arabs as treating second class citizens. Initially when there looked to be a socialist Isreal, Stalin was fine in supporting the establishment and supported such a state. I'm not supporting the USSR, and Stalin was of course horrific, but I believe Israel under socialism would be much more equal and accepting of Palestinian rights and would be a more peaceful religion, than it is now. That's unless a communist dictatorship is established, but I doubt that'd happen.

Um that did happen, and Isreal was socialist for some time and probably still is compared to America.

[The Other Castro]

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[Gass3268]

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[Attorney General, LGC Speaker, and Former PPT Dwarven Dragon]

So Dems throw out a woman whose only reason for keeping her was identity politics, to hire an anti-Israel 9/11 Truther. Great work guys. Really.

[Gass3268]

So Dems throw out a woman whose only reason for keeping her was identity politics, to hire an anti-Israel 9/11 Truther. Great work guys. Really.

Really self-quoting?

[Frozen Sky Ever Why]

Most liberals don't like Israel. Has nothing to do with anti-Semitism.

[The Other Castro]

So Dems throw out a woman whose only reason for keeping her was identity politics, to hire an anti-Israel 9/11 Truther. Great work guys. Really.

Your post was just as bad the first time you posted.

[Virginiá]

So Dems throw out a woman whose only reason for keeping her was identity politics, to hire an anti-Israel 9/11 Truther. Great work guys. Really.

You already posted this in this thread.

Also, why exactly do you think identity politics is the reason (putting aside those 2 dumb things you just said)?

[publicunofficial]

So Dems throw out a woman whose only reason for keeping her was identity politics, to hire an anti-Israel 9/11 Truther. Great work guys. Really.

You're like a child who tells a bad joke over and over again until someone finally laughs.

[The Other Castro]

Tom Perez plans to enter race for DNC Chair:

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http://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/12/us/politics/thomas-perez-democratic-national-committee.html?_r=0

[Gass3268]

Democracy For America endorses Ellison

[Mike67]

Wow Keith Ellison ,a racist and anti-Semite, is going to be the next Chairman of the DNC?

[Dr. Arch]

Wow Keith Ellison ,a racist and anti-Semite, is going to be the next Chairman of the DNC?

lol at that claim. Look at your precious party's president-elect.

[Gass3268]

J-Street: Stop Smearing Ellison

[America Needs R'hllor]

J-Street: Stop Smearing Ellison

J-Street is great, and believes in the true interests of Israel- a Jewish Democratic state, which requires  a two state solution.

[Gass3268]

J-Street: Stop Smearing Ellison

J-Street is great, and believes in the true interests of Israel- a Jewish Democratic state, which requires  a two state solution.

Agreed, they are the best when it comes to Israel and Middle East peace issues.

[American2020]

Keith Ellison could be the DNC Chair. I suggest he should choose vice chairs from Obama and Clinton wings to unite the party.
The democratic party has to go to grassroots and rekindle with working voters.
It should also move from centrism to the FDR, Truman, JFK and LBJ era, for the 21st century.