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« Reply #300 on: December 21, 2016, 02:01:37 AM »

I think a lot of people think DNC Chair makes you King of the Democrats. Not how it works.
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« Reply #301 on: December 21, 2016, 02:38:27 AM »

I think a lot of people think DNC Chair makes you King of the Democrats. Not how it works.

When most people hear the word chair though, they think "everyone answers to them, and they approve all the major decisions in all aspects of the organization". You need someone to fundraise? Okay, employ a fundraising chair. But don't pretend that person controls the whole organization by calling them the chair of the party when all they actually do is fundraise.
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« Reply #302 on: December 21, 2016, 01:05:19 PM »

NARAL President Ilyse Hogue says she will not run for Chair.

https://medium.com/@Ilysehogue/our-dnc-chair-f999d88575d#.ejt6irxm1
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« Reply #303 on: December 22, 2016, 12:04:08 AM »

Lots of non-profits have a head of fundraising who isn't the head of the organization.

Yes, you are right, but I wasn't trying to imply that the chair should no matter what. I meant someone should in response to a couple posts of his that have deemphasized the importance of fundraising for the party. It shouldn't be the only major goal by any means, nor should the party adopt policy visions of donors when they go against what is best for America and what the party stands for, but raising lots of money for downballot races / GOTV operations is still very much necessary. A diminished effect of money on a presidential race is one thing, but it doesn't speak the same way to races further down the ticket where money is more effective, particularly for candidates with low name recognition. It's like an assault rifle - just because it can't do anything to a tank does not mean it's not useful at all. It still works on the smaller/weaker/less-armored targets.
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« Reply #304 on: December 22, 2016, 12:32:38 AM »

Shame she aborted her campaign before it had the chance to develop
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« Reply #305 on: December 22, 2016, 01:07:24 AM »

Shame she aborted her campaign before it had the chance to develop

She went with her Plan B career path the morning after she conceived the idea to run, so nobody was really bothered that much.
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« Reply #306 on: December 22, 2016, 01:01:38 PM »

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« Reply #307 on: December 22, 2016, 03:33:42 PM »

Outgoing Senate Minority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., has denounced the Democratic National Committee as “worthless” and dismissed its former chairwoman, Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz, as “that congresswoman from Florida.”

In an interview with Nevada Public Radio Wednesday, Reid said the DNC had left states to fend for themselves.

“I believe one of the failures of Democratic Party has been the Democratic National Committee, the DNC, has been worthless,” Reid said.

“They do nothing to help state parties,” he said. “That should be the main goal they have. I developed everything in Nevada on my own. Their help was relatively meaningless.”
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« Reply #308 on: December 22, 2016, 04:52:33 PM »

Governors John Abel Edwards (LA), John Hickenlooper (CO), Terry McAuliffe (VA), and Gina Raimondo (RI) all endorse Perez.
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« Reply #309 on: December 22, 2016, 04:56:05 PM »

Shame she aborted her campaign before it had the chance to develop

She went with her Plan B career path the morning after she conceived the idea to run, so nobody was really bothered that much.

Thank you for the laugh when I'm at home sick, good sir
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« Reply #310 on: December 22, 2016, 11:37:24 PM »

Watch this, and if you still support Perez after watching it, you're no progressive:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ByXdb_E6FM

What a pathetic, stupid, little man.
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« Reply #311 on: December 22, 2016, 11:49:19 PM »

Watch this, and if you still support Perez after watching it, you're no progressive:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ByXdb_E6FM

What a pathetic, stupid, little man.

He serves at the pleasure of the President. And the President supports TPP. Get over it
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« Reply #312 on: December 23, 2016, 12:24:50 AM »

Watch this, and if you still support Perez after watching it, you're no progressive:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ByXdb_E6FM

What a pathetic, stupid, little man.

He serves at the pleasure of the President. And the President supports TPP. Get over it

Yes it puts him in an awkward position, but he's the one that chose to run for DNC Chair.
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« Reply #313 on: December 23, 2016, 12:26:29 AM »

Watch this, and if you still support Perez after watching it, you're no progressive:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ByXdb_E6FM

What a pathetic, stupid, little man.

He serves at the pleasure of the President. And the President supports TPP. Get over it

And thanks to the current President's support of TPP, the next President will be an opponent of TPP. If Democrats continue to tie themselves to TPP, they can enjoy 8 years of President Trump.
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« Reply #314 on: December 23, 2016, 12:43:24 AM »

Honestly only Ellison has impressed me so far in his plans for the DNC. It seems to be mostly an Ellison vs. Perez fight, and Perez hasn't really given too many reasons to back him.
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« Reply #315 on: December 23, 2016, 12:53:29 AM »

Watch this, and if you still support Perez after watching it, you're no progressive:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ByXdb_E6FM

What a pathetic, stupid, little man.

Is Perez really being backed by the "establishment?"

I thought Ellison had most of the endorsements.
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« Reply #316 on: December 23, 2016, 01:18:11 AM »

Watch this, and if you still support Perez after watching it, you're no progressive:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ByXdb_E6FM

What a pathetic, stupid, little man.
1. "The Humanist Report" is not real news.
2. The Commerce Secretary is the one you should be questioning about the TPP.
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« Reply #317 on: December 23, 2016, 02:53:04 AM »

Watch this, and if you still support Perez after watching it, you're no progressive:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ByXdb_E6FM

What a pathetic, stupid, little man.

Is Perez really being backed by the "establishment?"

I thought Ellison had most of the endorsements.

Perez is being pushed pretty hard by the Obama admin
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« Reply #318 on: December 23, 2016, 08:31:47 AM »

Honestly only Ellison has impressed me so far in his plans for the DNC. It seems to be mostly an Ellison vs. Perez fight, and Perez hasn't really given too many reasons to back him.

I mean, Ellison is an anti-Semite, so...
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« Reply #319 on: December 23, 2016, 02:17:20 PM »

Honestly only Ellison has impressed me so far in his plans for the DNC. It seems to be mostly an Ellison vs. Perez fight, and Perez hasn't really given too many reasons to back him.

I mean, Ellison is an anti-Semite, so...

If Ellison was actually an anti-Semite, which he is so obviously not, then he wouldn't have support from Jews like me, Sanders, and Schumer. Some of his remarks have been at odds with current US policy towards Israel, but I have said just as critical things. That does not make someone anti-Semitic.
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« Reply #320 on: December 23, 2016, 02:37:07 PM »

Watch this, and if you still support Perez after watching it, you're no progressive:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ByXdb_E6FM

What a pathetic, stupid, little man.

He serves at the pleasure of the President. And the President supports TPP. Get over it

I was going to post something similar, but scrolled up and saw yours (though I suppose I'd have been a bit more diplomatic). Perez and other cabinet officials are not free to do whatever they want. Just because Perez, as part of his official duties, defends Obama's initiatives does not mean he believes in them or would propose/support them if he had a say. It's like the job of a public defender. You may not like/believe/support the people you are defending, but you are there to do a job and not push your own agenda.

I don't support TPP, but I find it unfair to hold it against Perez. If he comes out for it post-admin, then that is a different story. If we want to make progress on liberal ideas, we can't go throwing people under the bus for things like this.
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« Reply #321 on: December 23, 2016, 02:41:13 PM »

Bannon is an anti-Semite, Ellison is an anti-Semite, Friedman is somehow an anti-Semite...just stop.
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« Reply #322 on: December 23, 2016, 02:42:26 PM »

Bannon is an anti-Semite, Ellison is an anti-Semite, Friedman is somehow an anti-Semite...just stop.

This will only stop when claims of anti-semitism no longer work as a quick, cheap, and easy way to immediately discredit someone.
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« Reply #323 on: December 24, 2016, 09:20:58 PM »

Honestly only Ellison has impressed me so far in his plans for the DNC. It seems to be mostly an Ellison vs. Perez fight, and Perez hasn't really given too many reasons to back him.

I mean, Ellison is an anti-Semite, so...

If Ellison was actually an anti-Semite, which he is so obviously not, then he wouldn't have support from Jews like me, Sanders, and Schumer. Some of his remarks have been at odds with current US policy towards Israel, but I have said just as critical things. That does not make someone anti-Semitic.

If Donald Trump was actually a sexist, then he wouldn't have support from women like Laura Ingram, Shelley Moore Capito, and Kellyanne Conway Roll Eyes
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« Reply #324 on: December 24, 2016, 09:30:47 PM »

Bannon is an anti-Semite, Ellison is an anti-Semite, Friedman is somehow an anti-Semite...just stop.

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