The Next DNC Chair: TOM PEREZ WINS, makes Ellison deputy chair

[Fusionmunster]

Obama and Biden want Perez, so its probably going to be Perez. It shouldn't be surprising.

[Hindsight was 2020]

Maybe Keith has more already? It just doesn't make sense everyone is backing Keith  

[Trapsy]

Dem leadership sucks, part XVII:

Proof this guy is an idiot for the donor class of dem party. Policy isnt the job of DNC chair, organizing is.

[Blackacre]

Are you f**king kidding me?! Literally all the tops of the party from Chuck, Bernie, Nancy want Keith

This. When Chuck Schumer, the current epitome of the establishment dems, wants Ellison, I dont understand why Perez is such a contender.

[The world will shine with light in our nightmare]

The DNC is rigged.

[Citizen (The) Doctor]

Are you f**king kidding me?! Literally all the tops of the party from Chuck, Bernie, Nancy want Keith

This. When Chuck Schumer, the current epitome of the establishment dems, wants Ellison, I dont understand why Perez is such a contender.

Either Ellison already has an edge or the DNC is overwhelmingly full of centrists.

[Maxwell]

This is pretty damning - it shows that the dnc did nothing wrong in 2016 in terms of strategy and organizing - what a disaster.

[RogueBeaver]

Are you f**king kidding me?! Literally all the tops of the party from Chuck, Bernie, Nancy want Keith

This. When Chuck Schumer, the current epitome of the establishment dems, wants Ellison, I dont understand why Perez is such a contender.

Hint: it wasn't in good faith. This is an ancient part of the Establishment playbook. As for my own view, Mondale said it better than I could.

[Fusionmunster]

Perez and Ellison literally agree on everything, why the doom and gloom?

[heatcharger]

How many claimed votes does Ellison have? I'm sure he's either around the same or not that far behind.

[Blue3]

They'll be making a huge mistake if they do this... do they not get how tone-deaf this is? Do they not get they'll Perez will be the new DWS, with that reputation right from the beginning?

[Hindsight was 2020]

Perez and Ellison literally agree on everything, why the doom and gloom?

I don't hate Perez but the YT/Bernie wing is gonna flip if Keith loses an possibly leave the party at a time we should be organizing for pushing back on a dangerous demagogue. Also Keith was warning about Trump winning back in 2015 so he knows how to put his ear to the ground

[Beet]

If Perez wins I'm seriously worried about a 1983-style split which gave Thatcher a landslide re-election despite losing the popular vote. Some of these people already left the party or were talking about leaving even before this.

[Chief Justice Keef]

If Perez is nominated for DNC chair, it's pretty obvious that any real change in the Democratic Party is going to have to come up from the bottom-up, not starting at the national level.

This is honestly sad, though. Instead of realizing where the real energy is and trying to capture that, the DNC would rather sink their heels in further and clutch on to the same ideas that have failed them the last 20 years.

[Blackacre]

Are you f**king kidding me?! Literally all the tops of the party from Chuck, Bernie, Nancy want Keith

This. When Chuck Schumer, the current epitome of the establishment dems, wants Ellison, I dont understand why Perez is such a contender.

Hint: it wasn't in good faith. This is an ancient part of the Establishment playbook. As for my own view, Mondale said it better than I could.

I don't understand

[Dr. Arch]

They'll be making a huge mistake if they do this... do they not get how tone-deaf this is? Do they not get they'll Perez will be the new DWS, with that reputation right from the beginning?

[Trapsy]

If Perez is nominated for DNC chair, it's pretty obvious that any real change in the Democratic Party is going to have to come up from the bottom-up, not starting at the national level.

This is honestly sad, though. Instead of realizing where the real energy is and trying to capture that, the DNC would rather sink their heels in further and clutch on to the same ideas that have failed them the last 20 years.

Democrats are a joke. Howard Dean was the best Chair and he was an outsider at the time.

[Fusionmunster]

Obama and Biden want Perez. If Perez wins, the Bernie wing is going to be pissed democrats listened to Obama and not Bernie?

[Hindsight was 2020]

This makes no sense the only explanation is they think Keith has been successfully branded as some black panther anti-Semite so moderates will run away but the only people who buy that garbage will never vote dem

[Chief Justice Keef]

How many claimed votes does Ellison have? I'm sure he's either around the same or not that far behind.

It doesn't matter. The Perez campaign released these numbers so the uncommitted members of the DNC are convinced the party is coalescing around him.

[Maxwell]

If Perez is nominated for DNC chair, it's pretty obvious that any real change in the Democratic Party is going to have to come up from the bottom-up, not starting at the national level.

This is honestly sad, though. Instead of realizing where the real energy is and trying to capture that, the DNC would rather sink their heels in further and clutch on to the same ideas that have failed them the last 20 years.

that may be a good thing, if it comes down to it. Democrats need to be re-built from the bottom-up, and one way to do that is to stop putting faith in national contenders to do their job.

[Trapsy]

I am not losing hope, we still have a weekish till the actual vote hopefully Ellison or Buttigieg can win some minds over but I think Buttigieg has momentum on his side with a real message.

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[Chief Justice Keef]

If Perez is nominated for DNC chair, it's pretty obvious that any real change in the Democratic Party is going to have to come up from the bottom-up, not starting at the national level.

This is honestly sad, though. Instead of realizing where the real energy is and trying to capture that, the DNC would rather sink their heels in further and clutch on to the same ideas that have failed them the last 20 years.

that may be a good thing, if it comes down to it. Democrats need to be re-built from the bottom-up, and one way to do that is to stop putting faith in national contenders to do their job.

Yeah, I find what's happening right now in the California Democratic Party pretty encouraging. If that can happen everywhere at the state level, we could see even bigger change. It's just gonna take more effort than trying to change it at the national level, regardless of whether Ellison wins or not.

[The world will shine with light in our nightmare]

If Perez is nominated for DNC chair, it's pretty obvious that any real change in the Democratic Party is going to have to come up from the bottom-up, not starting at the national level.

This is honestly sad, though. Instead of realizing where the real energy is and trying to capture that, the DNC would rather sink their heels in further and clutch on to the same ideas that have failed them the last 20 years.

that may be a good thing, if it comes down to it. Democrats need to be re-built from the bottom-up, and one way to do that is to stop putting faith in national contenders to do their job.

I don't know how that's going to happen.  Democrats can't force the party to stop letting 400+ rich fcks decide on their chair.  If the establishment is this committed to maintaining business as usual, then anything short of a serious Demexit in favor of the Greens or whatever is not going to force their hand.

[Trapsy]

If Perez is nominated for DNC chair, it's pretty obvious that any real change in the Democratic Party is going to have to come up from the bottom-up, not starting at the national level.

This is honestly sad, though. Instead of realizing where the real energy is and trying to capture that, the DNC would rather sink their heels in further and clutch on to the same ideas that have failed them the last 20 years.

that may be a good thing, if it comes down to it. Democrats need to be re-built from the bottom-up, and one way to do that is to stop putting faith in national contenders to do their job.

I don't know how that's going to happen.  Democrats can't force the party to stop letting 400+ rich fcks decide on their chair.  If the establishment is this committed to maintaining business as usual, then anything short of a serious Demexit in favor of the Greens or whatever is not going to force their hand.

If they choose Perez, I am done defending this class. I hope Sanders rips the party apart because they never learn.