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« Reply #1625 on: February 25, 2017, 03:40:26 PM »

Okay, I am no longer worried. Perez did what HRC never did: he extended an olive branch to the other wing of the party the first chance he got.

HRC did do that, but whatever. Anyways, it's a symbolic move, but this whole thing is in nature, so good showing by Perez and Ellison.

That's not an olive branch. This is the Establishment saying "this is OUR party, here, have a candy and f**k off". No one is getting fooled.

You are overreacting more than I expected. Did you see what Donna Brazille was doing today? DNC chair is one of the most boring, procedural jobs out there, and threatening to burn down the party because Ellison lost by a quite narrow margin is really one of your sadder developments. Perez will do fine and Ellison will have his ear throughout.
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« Reply #1626 on: February 25, 2017, 03:40:29 PM »

To me this feels like the first night of the DNC all over again.

Its not because its much less important.
He just wants to piss off the Ellison supporters. Nothing more.
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« Reply #1627 on: February 25, 2017, 03:40:30 PM »

Looks like they broke the rules and didn't record the vote. Shady shady...

Nothing would surprise me at this point.
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« Reply #1628 on: February 25, 2017, 03:40:45 PM »

To me this feels like the first night of the DNC all over again.
I must be missing the #demexit trending #1
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« Reply #1629 on: February 25, 2017, 03:41:01 PM »

Perez specifically calls out the sixth district in Georgia as a place to elect a democrat. Looks like they might actually try in a tough special election for once.
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« Reply #1630 on: February 25, 2017, 03:41:30 PM »

Looks like they broke the rules and didn't record the vote. Shady shady...

Nothing would surprise me at this point.
They did didn't they ?

He lost, fair and square.  Cry me a river.

There is nothing fair and square about this smoke-filled room of party hacks. They represent nothing but themselves. And they're soon going to learn it the hard way when real Democrats start turning out to vote.

The "real" democrats already turned out to vote last year, and they rejected Bernie's far left ideology big time.  I guess only the white liberals are real Democrats!

But didn't Bernie Sanders in the Democratic Primaries win West Virginia, Kentucky, Indiana, and same States Donald Trump won ?

I am super close to changing my Political Orientation.......


They were voting against Hillary, not for Bernie.  The real fervor all along has been with the far-far Left.

I've been researching Political Parties across the World for some time now ever since the 2016 election...... and I find out something so weird.

Bernie Sanders's crazy kooky ideas ? Universal Health Care ? Supported by the Conservative Party in the United Kingdom, a Center Right Political Party. Heck, Donald Trump agrees with Bernie Sanders on Trade ! Before the 1990s, The Democrats used to win these Red States not because they were Conservative..... because they focused on Economic Issues like Universal Health Care, and the Minimum Wage. Then Reagan won.....
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« Reply #1631 on: February 25, 2017, 03:41:52 PM »

An olive branch means absolutely nothing. But please delude yourselves, we'll need the full eight years.

besides trolling...you are so afraid of - not my words - a(nother) socialist black muslim to crush your president?

They may get 8 years but the Democrats will probably own the generation beyond Trump/Pence. This election is a very small harbinger of that.

muh coalition of the emergents

Nothing about demographic changes. It's more the economic changes coming that kill the Republicans. Calm down.
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« Reply #1632 on: February 25, 2017, 03:41:54 PM »

Will Ellison still resign from Congress to embrace this DNC role?
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« Reply #1633 on: February 25, 2017, 03:42:03 PM »

I like Tom Perez a lot. I don't know how he'll do as DNC chair, but I wish him luck.
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« Reply #1634 on: February 25, 2017, 03:42:14 PM »

Today's whole debacle can be summarized as the Democratic Party cutting off an arm and putting a bandaid over it, in hopes that it'll make everything better.

I don't think it's going to work.
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« Reply #1635 on: February 25, 2017, 03:43:21 PM »

An olive branch means absolutely nothing. But please delude yourselves, we'll need the full eight years.

besides trolling...you are so afraid of - not my words - a(nother) socialist black muslim to crush your president?

They may get 8 years but the Democrats will probably own the generation beyond Trump/Pence. This election is a very small harbinger of that.

muh coalition of the emergents

Nothing about demographic changes. It's more the economic changes coming that kill the Republicans. Calm down.

What economic changes, the destruction of the American middle-class and rise of mass poverty? This clearly didn't help Democrats in 2016.
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« Reply #1636 on: February 25, 2017, 03:43:36 PM »

He said we need to ensure Trump is a one-term president.  Love it!
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« Reply #1637 on: February 25, 2017, 03:44:35 PM »

I hate to be the "come on, let's give him a chance" guy, but... come on, folks. Perez isn't some centrist corporatist hack. He might prove to be an effective, progressive leader. If he ends up being as tone-deaf as people like DWS, I'll be there to call him out on it.
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« Reply #1638 on: February 25, 2017, 03:44:53 PM »

Okay, I am no longer worried. Perez did what HRC never did: he extended an olive branch to the other wing of the party the first chance he got.

HRC did do that, but whatever. Anyways, it's a symbolic move, but this whole thing is in nature, so good showing by Perez and Ellison.

By picking a VP that supports right to work?
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« Reply #1639 on: February 25, 2017, 03:45:04 PM »

Looks like they broke the rules and didn't record the vote. Shady shady...

Nothing would surprise me at this point.
They did didn't they ?

He lost, fair and square.  Cry me a river.

There is nothing fair and square about this smoke-filled room of party hacks. They represent nothing but themselves. And they're soon going to learn it the hard way when real Democrats start turning out to vote.

The "real" democrats already turned out to vote last year, and they rejected Bernie's far left ideology big time.  I guess only the white liberals are real Democrats!

But didn't Bernie Sanders in the Democratic Primaries win West Virginia, Kentucky, Indiana, and same States Donald Trump won ?

I am super close to changing my Political Orientation.......


They were voting against Hillary, not for Bernie.  The real fervor all along has been with the far-far Left.

I've been researching Political Parties across the World for some time now ever since the 2016 election...... and I find out something so weird.

Bernie Sanders's crazy kooky ideas ? Universal Health Care ? Supported by the Conservative Party in the United Kingdom, a Center Right Political Party. Heck, Donald Trump agrees with Bernie Sanders on Trade ! Before the 1990s, The Democrats used to win these Red States not because they were Conservative..... because they focused on Economic Issues like Universal Health Care, and the Minimum Wage. Then Reagan won.....

That's because of Bill forcing the party to the center. It may have been justified at the time, but it's gone on too long and is starting to be a drag on the party.
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« Reply #1640 on: February 25, 2017, 03:45:44 PM »

Will Ellison still resign from Congress to embrace this DNC role?
He shouldn't.
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« Reply #1641 on: February 25, 2017, 03:46:07 PM »

To me this feels like the first night of the DNC all over again.
I must be missing the #demexit trending #1

Give it time.
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« Reply #1642 on: February 25, 2017, 03:46:09 PM »

I hate to be the "come on, let's give him a chance" guy, but... come on, folks. Perez isn't some centrist corporatist hack. He might prove to be an effective, progressive leader. If he ends up being as tone-deaf as people like DWS, I'll be there to call him out on it.

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« Reply #1643 on: February 25, 2017, 03:46:48 PM »

The crazy thing about Perez being chair is he actually never held elected office. Hes gonna need a lot of help.
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« Reply #1644 on: February 25, 2017, 03:46:56 PM »

Perez just stated a goal for 57 strong state parties. LOL.
All the states and territories. What is wrong in saying that

He said the word state. And no, no one is going to make the Northern Mariana Islands or the U.S. Virgin Islands a state, sorry.

This isn't uncommon.
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« Reply #1645 on: February 25, 2017, 03:47:25 PM »

The crazy thing about Perez being chair is he actually never held elected office. Hes gonna need a lot of help.

But he HAS run a large bureaucracy, in the Labour department
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« Reply #1646 on: February 25, 2017, 03:48:01 PM »
« Edited: February 25, 2017, 03:49:53 PM by TD »

An olive branch means absolutely nothing. But please delude yourselves, we'll need the full eight years.

besides trolling...you are so afraid of - not my words - a(nother) socialist black muslim to crush your president?

They may get 8 years but the Democrats will probably own the generation beyond Trump/Pence. This election is a very small harbinger of that.

muh coalition of the emergents

Nothing about demographic changes. It's more the economic changes coming that kill the Republicans. Calm down.

What economic changes, the destruction of the American middle-class and rise of mass poverty? This clearly didn't help Democrats in 2016.

Not really the thread to have this discussion but your stated factors will certainly intensify in the coming years and that's why Bernie has become an integral force in the Democratic Party today. His candidate won 200 delegates and that's a highly decent showing. The winner is a strong populist progressive who laid out some of the most progressive elements of Barack Obama's administration.

The Democrats are a rising economically populist coalition (Bernie will propel them there) who are about 4-12 years from replacing the Reagan neoliberal coalition.
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« Reply #1647 on: February 25, 2017, 03:48:13 PM »

real victory isn't imho domination but correction.

force others to come closer to YOUR point of view.
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« Reply #1648 on: February 25, 2017, 03:49:33 PM »

The crazy thing about Perez being chair is he actually never held elected office. Hes gonna need a lot of help.

Perez was on the Montgomery County Council and it is not uncommon for party officials to have little to no elected experience.
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« Reply #1649 on: February 25, 2017, 03:50:31 PM »

An olive branch means absolutely nothing. But please delude yourselves, we'll need the full eight years.

besides trolling...you are so afraid of - not my words - a(nother) socialist black muslim to crush your president?

They may get 8 years but the Democrats will probably own the generation beyond Trump/Pence. This election is a very small harbinger of that.

muh coalition of the emergents

Nothing about demographic changes. It's more the economic changes coming that kill the Republicans. Calm down.

What economic changes, the destruction of the American middle-class and rise of mass poverty? This clearly didn't help Democrats in 2016.

Not really the thread to have this discussion but your stated factors will certainly intensify in the coming years and that's why Bernie has become an integral force in the Democratic Party today. His candidate won 200 delegates and that's a highly decent showing. The winner is a strong populist progressive who laid out some of the most progressive elements of Barack Obama's administration.

The Democrats are a rising economically populist coalition (Bernie will propel them there) who are about 8-12 years from replacing the Reagan neoliberal coalition.
Thank you TD ! For showing us how It goes ! But..... If anyone wants to know more, TD has an amazing Timeline !
Looks like they broke the rules and didn't record the vote. Shady shady...

Nothing would surprise me at this point.
They did didn't they ?

He lost, fair and square.  Cry me a river.

There is nothing fair and square about this smoke-filled room of party hacks. They represent nothing but themselves. And they're soon going to learn it the hard way when real Democrats start turning out to vote.

The "real" democrats already turned out to vote last year, and they rejected Bernie's far left ideology big time.  I guess only the white liberals are real Democrats!

But didn't Bernie Sanders in the Democratic Primaries win West Virginia, Kentucky, Indiana, and same States Donald Trump won ?

I am super close to changing my Political Orientation.......


They were voting against Hillary, not for Bernie.  The real fervor all along has been with the far-far Left.

I've been researching Political Parties across the World for some time now ever since the 2016 election...... and I find out something so weird.

Bernie Sanders's crazy kooky ideas ? Universal Health Care ? Supported by the Conservative Party in the United Kingdom, a Center Right Political Party. Heck, Donald Trump agrees with Bernie Sanders on Trade ! Before the 1990s, The Democrats used to win these Red States not because they were Conservative..... because they focused on Economic Issues like Universal Health Care, and the Minimum Wage. Then Reagan won.....

That's because of Bill forcing the party to the center. It may have been justified at the time, but it's gone on too long and is starting to be a drag on the party.
Blame Bill !
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