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Blackacre
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« on: February 09, 2017, 04:28:47 PM »

That's my congressman! I love the guy, and he reps my district well, but his math problem mindset... isn't what the party needs right now
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« Reply #1 on: February 14, 2017, 04:56:09 PM »

Oh my god, why is this happening. Just give it to Ellison! This shouldn't be that hard!
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« Reply #2 on: February 14, 2017, 05:09:01 PM »

Are you f**king kidding me?! Literally all the tops of the party from Chuck, Bernie, Nancy want Keith

This. When Chuck Schumer, the current epitome of the establishment dems, wants Ellison, I dont understand why Perez is such a contender.
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Blackacre
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« Reply #3 on: February 14, 2017, 05:20:53 PM »

Are you f**king kidding me?! Literally all the tops of the party from Chuck, Bernie, Nancy want Keith

This. When Chuck Schumer, the current epitome of the establishment dems, wants Ellison, I dont understand why Perez is such a contender.

Hint: it wasn't in good faith. This is an ancient part of the Establishment playbook. As for my own view, Mondale said it better than I could.

I don't understand
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Blackacre
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« Reply #4 on: February 17, 2017, 05:37:47 PM »

I'm going to be baffled that Ellison isn't cleaning up with this until he does actually win (or not I guess). This shouldn't be a proxy war; I was a major HRC supporter who actually really didn't like Bernie at all but I am fully behind the Ellison hype train.

Why wasn't Bernie the right fit for the party? There are a few reasons.

He wasn't an actual Democrat. Ellison is, and he's a 6-term congressman at that who's been working within the party since his election. He wants to improve the party's organisational capacity and return to the 50 state strategy.

He was never able to reach out to communities of colour during the campaign. Ellison's district is far less white than Vermont, and of course Ellison himself isn't white.

Sanders often times acted like a petulant child during the campaign. (though I blame Weaver for that mostly) Ellison isn't doing that, at all.

But Ellison is a strong progressive who understands both the Sanders wing and the necessary components of the Clinton wing (nonwhite Dems). Schumer and Al Franken, both HRC supporters, understand this too. Perez has no reason to be here, and the Clinton wing loses nothing by putting Ellison in charge.
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Blackacre
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« Reply #5 on: February 17, 2017, 05:50:06 PM »



But Ellison is a strong progressive who understands both the Sanders wing and the necessary components of the Clinton wing (nonwhite Dems). Schumer and Al Franken, both HRC supporters, understand this too. Perez has no reason to be here, and the Clinton wing loses nothing by putting Ellison in charge.

hahahaha you are really naive.  I will just quote myself:

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Also, describing non-whites as the Clinton-wing is laughable.

Non-white Democrats did vote for HRC over Sanders by large margins; it's the reason why she was the nominee and he wasn't.

Basically what I'm saying is that HRC won in part because she got a lot of votes from very liberal dems (such as myself) and I don't see any reason why very liberal HRC supporters would not want Ellison.
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« Reply #6 on: February 21, 2017, 12:42:29 PM »


Thank goodness. Lewis was one of the major players in the Clinton wing during the primaries, so his endorsement of Ellison should help a lot
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« Reply #7 on: February 22, 2017, 09:44:00 AM »

Donald J. TrumpVerified account‏@realDonaldTrump  2h2 hours ago

 One thing I will say about Rep. Keith Ellison, in his fight to lead the DNC, is that he was the one who predicted early that I would win!


Yeah, that's a legitimate point in Ellison's favour. It shows that he has a better sense of the direction of the country, and how to address it, than the Trump skeptics. His grand "I told you so" to me and everybody else who didn't believe him may as well come with the DNC Chairmanship
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« Reply #8 on: February 25, 2017, 12:35:34 PM »

FINALLY! The part I actually care about. Go Keith!!
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« Reply #9 on: February 25, 2017, 12:36:23 PM »

Odd that the first nomination speech for Ellison invokes HRC
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« Reply #10 on: February 25, 2017, 12:38:58 PM »

Invoking MN's strong D party is a good strategy
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« Reply #11 on: February 25, 2017, 12:42:09 PM »

Keith is up! GO KEITH!!!!
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« Reply #12 on: February 25, 2017, 12:44:42 PM »

Odd that the first nomination speech for Ellison invokes HRC

Lot's of folks that endorsed Clinton in the primary endorsed Ellison.

This is true; I pointed that out earlier. Notably John Lewis
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« Reply #13 on: February 25, 2017, 12:47:59 PM »

So THAT'S how you pronounce his name?
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Blackacre
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« Reply #14 on: February 25, 2017, 12:53:40 PM »

Is he making an endorsement?
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« Reply #15 on: February 25, 2017, 01:07:49 PM »

Oh, wonder who she is.

> Fox News Analyst

NOPE NOPE NOPE NOPE NOPE NOPE NOPE NOPE NOPE NOPE
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« Reply #16 on: February 25, 2017, 01:11:09 PM »

Somebody meme that pronto
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« Reply #17 on: February 25, 2017, 01:19:32 PM »


If Ellison loses, my TL is screwed too Tongue
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« Reply #18 on: February 25, 2017, 01:27:05 PM »


Well I had Ellison winning albeit narrowly but I'm terrible with names. ..

Yeah, individual names being wrong isn't actually enough to sink a TL, but still Tongue
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Blackacre
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« Reply #19 on: February 25, 2017, 02:05:41 PM »

This text is going around, very dishonest from whoever is sending it:



It's probably true but not something to be made public
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« Reply #20 on: February 25, 2017, 02:07:32 PM »

There's still part of me that wants to see something complexly crazy happen.

"First ballot... We have a candidate with 300 votes!

AND HIS NAME IS JOHN CENA!!!!"
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Blackacre
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« Reply #21 on: February 25, 2017, 02:11:30 PM »

There's still part of me that wants to see something complexly crazy happen.

"First ballot... We have a candidate with 300 votes!

AND HIS NAME IS JOHN CENA!!!!"

As funny as that meme is, isn't Cena on the more conservative side, politically speaking?

I don't know, but it wouldn't surprise me if he was. Still Tongue
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« Reply #22 on: February 25, 2017, 02:14:11 PM »

I c wat u did there, Ellison


God damnit...
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Blackacre
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« Reply #23 on: February 25, 2017, 02:15:48 PM »

I'd say the John Cena meme could be recycled for the RNC, but come on, Trump may as well be John Cena
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« Reply #24 on: February 25, 2017, 02:23:40 PM »

Wow, Perez ONE point short of the first ballot win!
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