The Next DNC Chair: TOM PEREZ WINS, makes Ellison deputy chair

[jojoju1998]

Thank God this over

It's not over. The Bernie wing will not forget. This is war.

He lost, fair and square.  Cry me a river.

There is nothing fair and square about this smoke-filled room of party hacks. They represent nothing but themselves. And they're soon going to learn it the hard way when real Democrats start turning out to vote.

The "real" democrats already turned out to vote last year, and they rejected Bernie's far left ideology big time.  I guess only the white liberals are real Democrats!

But didn't Bernie Sanders in the Democratic Primaries win West Virginia, Kentucky, Indiana, and same States Donald Trump won ?

I am super close to changing my Political Orientation.......

[jojoju1998]

Looks like they broke the rules and didn't record the vote. Shady shady...

Nothing would surprise me at this point.

They did didn't they ?

Thank God this over

It's not over. The Bernie wing will not forget. This is war.

He lost, fair and square.  Cry me a river.

There is nothing fair and square about this smoke-filled room of party hacks. They represent nothing but themselves. And they're soon going to learn it the hard way when real Democrats start turning out to vote.

The "real" democrats already turned out to vote last year, and they rejected Bernie's far left ideology big time.  I guess only the white liberals are real Democrats!

But didn't Bernie Sanders in the Democratic Primaries win West Virginia, Kentucky, Indiana, and same States Donald Trump won ?

I am super close to changing my Political Orientation.......

They were voting against Hillary, not for Bernie.  The real fervor all along has been with the far-far Left.

I've been researching Political Parties across the World for some time now ever since the 2016 election...... and I find out something so weird.

Bernie Sanders's crazy kooky ideas ? Universal Health Care ? Supported by the Conservative Party in the United Kingdom, a Center Right Political Party. Heck, Donald Trump agrees with Bernie Sanders on Trade ! Before the 1990s, The Democrats used to win these Red States not because they were Conservative..... because they focused on Economic Issues like Universal Health Care, and the Minimum Wage. Then Reagan won.....

[jojoju1998]

An olive branch means absolutely nothing. But please delude yourselves, we'll need the full eight years.

besides trolling...you are so afraid of - not my words - a(nother) socialist black muslim to crush your president?

They may get 8 years but the Democrats will probably own the generation beyond Trump/Pence. This election is a very small harbinger of that.

muh coalition of the emergents

Nothing about demographic changes. It's more the economic changes coming that kill the Republicans. Calm down.

What economic changes, the destruction of the American middle-class and rise of mass poverty? This clearly didn't help Democrats in 2016.

Not really the thread to have this discussion but your stated factors will certainly intensify in the coming years and that's why Bernie has become an integral force in the Democratic Party today. His candidate won 200 delegates and that's a highly decent showing. The winner is a strong populist progressive who laid out some of the most progressive elements of Barack Obama's administration.

The Democrats are a rising economically populist coalition (Bernie will propel them there) who are about 8-12 years from replacing the Reagan neoliberal coalition.

Thank you TD ! For showing us how It goes ! But..... If anyone wants to know more, TD has an amazing Timeline !

Looks like they broke the rules and didn't record the vote. Shady shady...

Nothing would surprise me at this point.

They did didn't they ?

Thank God this over

It's not over. The Bernie wing will not forget. This is war.

He lost, fair and square.  Cry me a river.

There is nothing fair and square about this smoke-filled room of party hacks. They represent nothing but themselves. And they're soon going to learn it the hard way when real Democrats start turning out to vote.

The "real" democrats already turned out to vote last year, and they rejected Bernie's far left ideology big time.  I guess only the white liberals are real Democrats!

But didn't Bernie Sanders in the Democratic Primaries win West Virginia, Kentucky, Indiana, and same States Donald Trump won ?

I am super close to changing my Political Orientation.......

They were voting against Hillary, not for Bernie.  The real fervor all along has been with the far-far Left.

I've been researching Political Parties across the World for some time now ever since the 2016 election...... and I find out something so weird.

Bernie Sanders's crazy kooky ideas ? Universal Health Care ? Supported by the Conservative Party in the United Kingdom, a Center Right Political Party. Heck, Donald Trump agrees with Bernie Sanders on Trade ! Before the 1990s, The Democrats used to win these Red States not because they were Conservative..... because they focused on Economic Issues like Universal Health Care, and the Minimum Wage. Then Reagan won.....

That's because of Bill forcing the party to the center. It may have been justified at the time, but it's gone on too long and is starting to be a drag on the party.

Blame Bill !

[jojoju1998]

I wonder how much power Keith will have as deputy

Please. Perez will do everything possible to make sure his influence is minimal.

Why don't you have any Faith in Tom Perez ? He seems like a Gracious Person and it looks like he and Keith Ellison really respect each other.

[jojoju1998]

They hadn't learned a thing.

Well I might be jumping over to the Democratic Side so at least the Democratic Party got one new Member.

[jojoju1998]

An olive branch means absolutely nothing. But please delude yourselves, we'll need the full eight years.

besides trolling...you are so afraid of - not my words - a(nother) socialist black muslim to crush your president?

They may get 8 years but the Democrats will probably own the generation beyond Trump/Pence. This election is a very small harbinger of that.

muh coalition of the emergents

Nothing about demographic changes. It's more the economic changes coming that kill the Republicans. Calm down.

What economic changes, the destruction of the American middle-class and rise of mass poverty? This clearly didn't help Democrats in 2016.

Not really the thread to have this discussion but your stated factors will certainly intensify in the coming years and that's why Bernie has become an integral force in the Democratic Party today. His candidate won 200 delegates and that's a highly decent showing. The winner is a strong populist progressive who laid out some of the most progressive elements of Barack Obama's administration.

The Democrats are a rising economically populist coalition (Bernie will propel them there) who are about 4-12 years from replacing the Reagan neoliberal coalition.

I hope you're right, but I have a hard time being so optimistic right now. Democrats seem bent on doubling down with becoming the party of the upper-middle-class.

Transitions from minority to majority political coalitions are never clean, have a lot of hurt feelings, and etc etc.

FWIW, the race between a black Muslim versus a Latino Catholic (in think) looks a lot like the America coming down the pike so that's something to think about too.

Besides, Maybe Tom Perez will not support TPP. I think the only reason why Perez even supported TPP was because of Obama.

[jojoju1998]

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He's right, they shouldn't leave the party. They need to conquer it, State after State, county after county.

Exactly!Using the same organizing tactics as the tea parties.

Indeed. It worked wonders for the GOP, no reason it won't for us.

That's assuming the state parties don't try to kneecap us, which they certainly will try to.

Well, didn't we just take over California and a few other State parties? I'm sure we can do the same elsewhere.

Except the California Democrats weren't prepared. Watch as the other state parties pass rules to kneecap Bernie supporters. They'd rather lose with the Third Wayer than win with a progressive.

And who do you think will be that Progressive ? Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren ? Way too old ! Sherrod Brown ? Tammy Baldwin ?

The only other option I could think of is having some unknown Progressive Democrat win the Governorship in the Midwest.

[jojoju1998]

So this is the new DNC Chair:

Could these morons possibly find anyone more divisive?  That was honestly the most sick, disgusting and dishonest thing the Clinton campaign did during the primary and this punk was behind it.  He can go f*** himself.

Didn't Sanders also say that Clinton was unqualified to be Commander in chief?

No offense, but are you stupid or something?  This clown, after the New Hampshire primary sent Podesta an email saying that Bernie may have the youth vote but we can try and create a narrative that he only has the white youth vote, which would play well in South Carolina (his exact words).

This is Dirty Politics 101, the kind of tactics I usually expect from Republicans, not someone leading the Democratic party.  It is dishonest because I am sure this punk knows Bernie wasn't racist, and extremely hurtful to many progressives who were portrayed essentially as white supremacists.

If you're happy with this a-hole, fine, be my guest.  But Perez doesn't give a f*** for anyone but himself and his bosses.

Aren't American Politics ugly ?

I read something about the Southern Democrats breaking off from the National Democratic Party during the 1948 election, and of course, the 1964 election with the Daisy Ad.

[jojoju1998]

I love how Ellison supporters are supposedly having a tantrum when his (apparent) opponents are using bloated terms like "childish," far-left," "infantile," and "BernieBro" to describe his disappointed supporters.

I'm not. Frankly...... I think Tom Perez will resign after 2020......