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« on: February 11, 2017, 05:51:41 PM »

I hope we choose Pete.

1. He's a solid choice and straightforward.
2. He would put an end to the proxy primary fight.
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« Reply #1 on: February 11, 2017, 09:00:50 PM »

Moderates like Buttigieg, Progressives like Buttigieg. There is literally no downside to him winning. I just can't imagine the DNC members picking him over Ellison or Perez though and that is a damn shame.

Buttigieg is the the real deal.
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« Reply #2 on: February 12, 2017, 05:43:53 PM »

The importance ascribed to this position seems grossly exaggerated to me. Why all the fuss?

I don't know how you look at the democratic party the past 8 years and not exaggerate this position. Also, this position will be the face of the opposition to Trump. I think I want someone who inspires and activates people to get involved.
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« Reply #3 on: February 13, 2017, 01:15:19 AM »
« Edited: February 13, 2017, 01:27:46 AM by Trapsy »

Tom Perez finally accepted an interview from TYT Politics and he pretty much failed and showed his true colors. Especially at the end.

https://www.youtube.com/shared?ci=g81xG3e0oYI

The witchhunt against Tom Perez is quite disgusting. "Who in the Bernie Sanders world is supporting you?" Who f**king cares? The party does not revolve around a guy who's not even in said party.

...And this is why you lost.


This is the season for happy warriors. Smiley
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« Reply #4 on: February 14, 2017, 05:02:13 PM »

Perez is horrible. I'd rather go with Ellison.
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« Reply #5 on: February 14, 2017, 05:07:39 PM »


Proof this guy is an idiot for the donor class of dem party. Policy isnt the job of DNC chair, organizing is.
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« Reply #6 on: February 14, 2017, 05:22:13 PM »

If Perez is nominated for DNC chair, it's pretty obvious that any real change in the Democratic Party is going to have to come up from the bottom-up, not starting at the national level.

This is honestly sad, though. Instead of realizing where the real energy is and trying to capture that, the DNC would rather sink their heels in further and clutch on to the same ideas that have failed them the last 20 years.

Democrats are a joke. Howard Dean was the best Chair and he was an outsider at the time.
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« Reply #7 on: February 14, 2017, 05:36:37 PM »

I am not losing hope, we still have a weekish till the actual vote hopefully Ellison or Buttigieg can win some minds over but I think Buttigieg has momentum on his side with a real message.

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« Reply #8 on: February 14, 2017, 05:45:00 PM »

If Perez is nominated for DNC chair, it's pretty obvious that any real change in the Democratic Party is going to have to come up from the bottom-up, not starting at the national level.

This is honestly sad, though. Instead of realizing where the real energy is and trying to capture that, the DNC would rather sink their heels in further and clutch on to the same ideas that have failed them the last 20 years.

that may be a good thing, if it comes down to it. Democrats need to be re-built from the bottom-up, and one way to do that is to stop putting faith in national contenders to do their job.

I don't know how that's going to happen.  Democrats can't force the party to stop letting 400+ rich fcks decide on their chair.  If the establishment is this committed to maintaining business as usual, then anything short of a serious Demexit in favor of the Greens or whatever is not going to force their hand.

If they choose Perez, I am done defending this class. I hope Sanders rips the party apart because they never learn.
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« Reply #9 on: February 14, 2017, 06:17:56 PM »

If Perez is nominated for DNC chair, it's pretty obvious that any real change in the Democratic Party is going to have to come up from the bottom-up, not starting at the national level.

This is honestly sad, though. Instead of realizing where the real energy is and trying to capture that, the DNC would rather sink their heels in further and clutch on to the same ideas that have failed them the last 20 years.

that may be a good thing, if it comes down to it. Democrats need to be re-built from the bottom-up, and one way to do that is to stop putting faith in national contenders to do their job.

I don't know how that's going to happen.  Democrats can't force the party to stop letting 400+ rich fcks decide on their chair.  If the establishment is this committed to maintaining business as usual, then anything short of a serious Demexit in favor of the Greens or whatever is not going to force their hand.

If they choose Perez, I am done defending this class. I hope Sanders rips the party apart because they never learn.

What a baby.

Look, I have nothing against Perez but its just annoying as f to see forces in our party just aligned behind one person just because a small group of people said so. We need new influences in the party and just relying on the same old playbook is gonna cost us, its already costing big time.  
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« Reply #10 on: February 20, 2017, 12:20:58 PM »

Buttigieg has the momentum right now.
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« Reply #11 on: February 22, 2017, 12:09:54 PM »

Ellison or Buttigieg will win.
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« Reply #12 on: February 22, 2017, 03:27:30 PM »

The AP has a whip count of:

Perez: 205
Ellison: 153
Harrison: 27
Boynton-Brown: 10
Buttigieg: 8

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« Reply #13 on: February 23, 2017, 01:48:30 PM »

447.
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« Reply #14 on: February 25, 2017, 01:26:46 AM »

This Ellison vs Perez war is insane.
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« Reply #15 on: February 25, 2017, 03:10:47 PM »

We all know Mayor Pete was the one.
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« Reply #16 on: February 25, 2017, 03:31:31 PM »

lol dems are dumb oh well i guess well fight over dnc chair for the next two years. i would fight over this but its pointless. we have governships to win, senate seats, and house seats.
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« Reply #17 on: February 25, 2017, 03:46:48 PM »

The crazy thing about Perez being chair is he actually never held elected office. Hes gonna need a lot of help.
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« Reply #18 on: February 25, 2017, 03:51:15 PM »

The crazy thing about Perez being chair is he actually never held elected office. Hes gonna need a lot of help.

But he HAS run a large bureaucracy, in the Labour department

but still it doesn't mean that experience will transfer over to winning elections. That's why I said he will need a lot of help to understand elections.
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« Reply #19 on: February 25, 2017, 04:00:28 PM »

The crazy thing about Perez being chair is he actually never held elected office. Hes gonna need a lot of help.

Perez was on the Montgomery County Council and it is not uncommon for party officials to have little to no elected experience.

Exhibit A: Reince Priebus, who built his career entirely within the Republican Party administrative apparatus.

My only concern is about the DNC being used as the main tool to build state parties rather than an institution for allocating resources to state parties.
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« Reply #20 on: February 25, 2017, 04:07:17 PM »

Just take a look at the forums that Sanders supporters frequent, and you'll see that this isn't going over well. #unity right?

You might think they're being unreasonable, but Perez was objectively the worst choice for party unity. This is eerily similar to the 2016 primaries.

I'll probably never leave the Democratic Party, but this was just the wrong move strategically. Also, the self-righteous and paternalistic attitude that a lot of the red avatars are taking towards the Bernie wing of the party is not helpful in the slightest.

I actually didn't think both of them would really bring fresh ideas to the chair but I would have still given it to Ellison just to smooth out the skepticism from the sanders wing. Perez entering the race made no sense at all. Thats why you have Schumer trying to get Ellison elected because he knew this would set us back when unity is what we need the most.
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« Reply #21 on: February 25, 2017, 04:16:06 PM »

The one thing Republicans do well is they flow with the movements despite how toxic they think it could be.
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« Reply #22 on: February 25, 2017, 04:21:05 PM »

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« Reply #23 on: February 25, 2017, 04:21:34 PM »

LOL OBAMA IS SO SOFT NOW.
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« Reply #24 on: February 25, 2017, 04:36:30 PM »


And who are they going to have in this party that's high-profile enough to beat a Democrat, since they're not getting Sanders, Gabbard, Warren, or Ellison? Are they going to have Kshama Sawant try to primary Maria Cantwell, for example?

is it JusticeDems or Demsocialists ?
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