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« on: November 13, 2016, 02:03:13 PM »

It's very clear that even when "the media" (including a sizable contingent of the conservative media) throw the kitchen sink at a candidate, that is not enough to stop them from winning.
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« Reply #1 on: November 13, 2016, 02:04:35 PM »

We won in spite of, not because, the media. They aren't fooling anyone and the fake stories about Hillary Clinton's cute little hike in the woods and the fake "protester" who was in reality a CNN cameraman show that the media is more against Trump than ever. We will continue to fight misinformation for as long as the media continues to undermine our President and violate their own "sacred" (allegedly) journalistic ethics.

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« Reply #2 on: November 13, 2016, 02:08:50 PM »

We won in spite of, not because, the media. They aren't fooling anyone and the fake stories about Hillary Clinton's cute little hike in the woods and the fake "protester" who was in reality a CNN cameraman show that the media is more against Trump than ever. We will continue to fight misinformation for as long as the media continues to undermine our President and violate their own "sacred" (allegedly) journalistic ethics.

So no more Breitbart either then, right?
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« Reply #3 on: November 13, 2016, 02:14:49 PM »

there IS media bias and regarding the MSM it's more liberal than conservative.

that's the surface level discussion...

but it get's much worse if you go deeper.

bigger media bias is for money/ratings and this one cuts far deeper than political.

and don't even get me started on the negative results of the conservative-entertainment complex, which is just a giant echo chamber/information bubble .....ofc you can learn something from reading those (like with hard-liberal publications) but there is sooo much you don't learn if only depending on them.

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« Reply #4 on: November 13, 2016, 02:30:27 PM »

No.

It's very clear that even when "the media" (including a sizable contingent of the conservative media) throw the kitchen sink at a candidate, that is not enough to stop them from winning.

That's not really the issue though. I think the media does a pretty good job of treating candidates fairly for the most part. If anything their bias is towards horse races.

The issue is more about what they cover in terms of current events, culture etc. Journalists tend to be from educated, relatively secular, middle to upper middle class backgrounds and see the world through that lense. Their coverage reflects that. It's not like they are sitting in smoking rooms planning how to rig things to make conservatives look bad. Rather, they tend to cover stories that are more interesting to people from their backgrounds. That is why you sometimes get right wingers and socialists lamenting media bias together.

Here's an example: Anvi and I both listen to a political radio show in Canada called The Current. The show is excellent and the host is always very fair to conservative guests, but the stories covered are almost always "liberal" issues, and that is where I complain about bias.

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« Reply #5 on: November 13, 2016, 02:35:10 PM »

We won in spite of, not because, the media. They aren't fooling anyone and the fake stories about Hillary Clinton's cute little hike in the woods and the fake "protester" who was in reality a CNN cameraman show that the media is more against Trump than ever. We will continue to fight misinformation for as long as the media continues to undermine our President and violate their own "sacred" (allegedly) journalistic ethics.

So no more Breitbart either then, right?
Breitbart is commentary. You know what you are getting with it. It isn't "actual news" and everyone knows that. Even the readers.
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« Reply #6 on: November 13, 2016, 02:35:41 PM »

No.

It's very clear that even when "the media" (including a sizable contingent of the conservative media) throw the kitchen sink at a candidate, that is not enough to stop them from winning.

That's not really the issue though. I think the media does a pretty good job of treating candidates fairly for the most part. If anything their bias is towards horse races.

The issue is more about what they cover in terms of current events, culture etc. Journalists tend to be from educated, relatively secular, middle to upper middle class backgrounds and see the world through that lense. Their coverage reflects that. It's not like they are sitting in smoking rooms planning how to rig things to make conservatives look bad. Rather, they tend to cover stories that are more interesting to people from their backgrounds. That is why you sometimes get right wingers and socialists lamenting media bias together.

Here's an example: Anvi and I both listen to a political radio show in Canada called The Current. The show is excellent and the host is always very fair to conservative guests, but the stories covered are almost always "liberal" issues, and that is where I complain about bias.


Nailed it. Most of the media bias in my opinion is establishment center-leftism. They are out of touch, rather than devious.
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« Reply #7 on: November 13, 2016, 03:02:34 PM »

No.

It's very clear that even when "the media" (including a sizable contingent of the conservative media) throw the kitchen sink at a candidate, that is not enough to stop them from winning.

That's not really the issue though. I think the media does a pretty good job of treating candidates fairly for the most part. If anything their bias is towards horse races.

The issue is more about what they cover in terms of current events, culture etc. Journalists tend to be from educated, relatively secular, middle to upper middle class backgrounds and see the world through that lense. Their coverage reflects that. It's not like they are sitting in smoking rooms planning how to rig things to make conservatives look bad. Rather, they tend to cover stories that are more interesting to people from their backgrounds. That is why you sometimes get right wingers and socialists lamenting media bias together.

Here's an example: Anvi and I both listen to a political radio show in Canada called The Current. The show is excellent and the host is always very fair to conservative guests, but the stories covered are almost always "liberal" issues, and that is where I complain about bias.



This is a fair assessment, I think
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« Reply #8 on: November 13, 2016, 04:15:48 PM »

No.

It's very clear that even when "the media" (including a sizable contingent of the conservative media) throw the kitchen sink at a candidate, that is not enough to stop them from winning.

That's not really the issue though. I think the media does a pretty good job of treating candidates fairly for the most part. If anything their bias is towards horse races.

The issue is more about what they cover in terms of current events, culture etc. Journalists tend to be from educated, relatively secular, middle to upper middle class backgrounds and see the world through that lense. Their coverage reflects that. It's not like they are sitting in smoking rooms planning how to rig things to make conservatives look bad. Rather, they tend to cover stories that are more interesting to people from their backgrounds. That is why you sometimes get right wingers and socialists lamenting media bias together.

Here's an example: Anvi and I both listen to a political radio show in Canada called The Current. The show is excellent and the host is always very fair to conservative guests, but the stories covered are almost always "liberal" issues, and that is where I complain about bias.

You nailed it. People can smell the rot. The "Establishment" includes the media. Voters can read on Wikileaks about private association between CNN and Hillary before the debates.

When the country is so divided, people can smell bias.

They are looking with a healthy skepticism for bias. Donald is not the only person who thinks the system is rigged.

But the media fell for his show, Trump Circus, and gave him $400M worth of free media exposure to show his ideas the voters, so he cannot be too bitter. All news is good news whennit comes to the Donald.

Biased reporters end up sounding like regurgitated dross.

I cannot listen to Hannity for example for more than 2 minutes.

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« Reply #9 on: November 13, 2016, 04:17:41 PM »

All I know is if you bring the media, I will assume other things about you as well now. That the media is up there getting Democrats elected is as silly as vaccines causing autism. Maybe there are too many journalists eating salads, driving electric cars, or drinking absinthe but that doesn't mean they aren't trying to be biased. All this talk about being "out of touch" is coded for "people who don't shop at Walmart."
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« Reply #10 on: November 13, 2016, 04:29:40 PM »

Breitbart is commentary. You know what you are getting with it. It isn't "actual news" and everyone knows that. Even the readers.

You would be surprised. Many, many people I know on the right take sites like Breitbart, World Net Daily, and FreeRepublic at face value as hard news. Never mind Talk Radio and Fox News prime-time (Hannity ect.).

The right-wing media bubble is just as real. You'd be kidding yourself to believe otherwise.
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