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« Reply #550 on: May 22, 2017, 06:37:30 PM »

I don't understand why they would do the recount before counting the absentees.

This is British Columbia where logic comes to die.  See the resident troll here for evidence of that.
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« Reply #551 on: May 22, 2017, 07:03:54 PM »

Richmond-Queensborough MIGHT flip to the NDP from Liberals. NDP reduced the margin of victory to ~170 from ~300 with about 1,000 absentee votes counted, and approximately another 1,000 absentee to go. Will find out more in about 40 minutes, when more absentee ballots are tabulated. If it doesn't entirely flip, it might still be subject to a recount though, if the margin of victory goes down to below 100 votes.

Lead is now 116 votes, they'll continue tomorrow.
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« Reply #552 on: May 22, 2017, 07:04:49 PM »

Richmond Queensborough margin of victory down to 116, with 541 absentee ballots to go. A recount might be likely. If they are allowed to do one after absentee ballots are counted.
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« Reply #553 on: May 22, 2017, 07:37:01 PM »

Some observations on the 1st day of the 'Final Count'

Of the 16 ridings that had complete counts, the Liberal improve in 9 riding, the NDP in improve in 7. The NDP manage to improve their lead in Burnaby North by 712 votes, while in Prince Geroge-Valemount the Liberals improve their lead by 437 votes.

In Courtenay-Comox, the adjusted results show the NDP has a lead of 13 votes. The Liberal lost 6 votes,  while the NDP lost 2 votes.

In the next closest race, in Maple Ridge-Mission, the NDP lead is now at 166 compared to 120 from Election Night. So far, a total of 219 votes were added in this riding.

In Richmond-Queensborough, the Liberal lead has shrunk from 263 votes to 116, with 1361 added votes.

As of right now, the NDP has increase their vote count by 27,382 votes, while the Liberal increase the vote count by 21,906

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« Reply #554 on: May 22, 2017, 08:19:55 PM »

I think that in ridings where the BC Liberals won by a big margin on election night the absentees will likely pad their leads in raw votes though in almost every case the bC Liberals are beating the NDP by a smaller percentage of the than they got on election night...in the case of Courtenay-Comox it's likely (though not certain) that the NDP will pad its lead with absentees. In 2013 the NDP lost that seat to the Liberals by 2000 votes but won the absentees by 30 votes
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« Reply #555 on: May 22, 2017, 08:24:55 PM »

I think that in ridings where the BC Liberals won by a big margin on election night the absentees will likely pad their leads in raw votes though in almost every case the bC Liberals are beating the NDP by a smaller percentage of the than they got on election night...in the case of Courtenay-Comox it's likely (though not certain) that the NDP will pad its lead with absentees. In 2013 the NDP lost that seat to the Liberals by 2000 votes but won the absentees by 30 votes

Different riding boundaries though in 2013.
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« Reply #556 on: May 22, 2017, 08:58:06 PM »

Somewhat different but the pattern was still that the NDP did better with absentees than election night votes and the predecessor riding of Comox Valley also contained the military base
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« Reply #557 on: May 23, 2017, 08:10:49 AM »

What is the theory that military personnel vote based on where their base is? I believe in federal elections, they can vote in whatever riding they want.
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« Reply #558 on: May 23, 2017, 09:01:21 AM »

What is the theory that military personnel vote based on where their base is? I believe in federal elections, they can vote in whatever riding they want.

That's why some estimate that no more than half a dozen absentee votes were actually cast in Courtenay-Comox by personnel from the base.
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« Reply #559 on: May 23, 2017, 09:27:44 AM »

ah, ok.

Well, I am cautiously optimistic about the count. The absentees are overwhelmingly leaning NDP so far and the PV margin keeps tightening.
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« Reply #560 on: May 23, 2017, 10:12:20 AM »

Here are the 2013 BC election vote totals broken down by category.

Category
LIB
NDP
GP
CP
OTH
VALID
REJ
VOTERS
e-Day
563,573
489,870
105,054
63,474
40,527
1,262,498
5,784
3,176,455
Advance
160,524
153,404
25,386
16,861
10,383
366,558
1,318
0
s. 98 Special
4,901
6,566
1,073
776
335
13,651
429
0
s. 99 Absentee - in ED
31,727
30,766
7,950
4,241
2,555
77,239
829
0
s. 100 Absentee - out of ED
11,794
13,685
3,359
1,105
620
30,563
2,295
0
s. 101 Absentee - advance
4,362
4,480
780
452
199
10,273
288
0
s. 104 Voting in DEO office
15,920
14,120
2,486
1,599
772
34,897
644
0
s. 106 Voting by mail
2,473
2,964
597
311
125
6,470
176
0
Grand Total
795,274
715,855
146,685
88,819
55,516
1,802,149
11,763
3,176,455

Category
LIB%
NDP%
GP%
CP%
OTH%
e-Day
44.6%
38.8%
8.3%
5.0%
3.2%
Advance
43.8%
41.8%
6.9%
4.6%
2.8%
s. 98 Special
35.9%
48.1%
7.9%
5.7%
2.5%
s. 99 Absentee - in ED
41.1%
39.8%
10.3%
5.5%
3.3%
s. 100 Absentee - out of ED
38.6%
44.8%
11.0%
3.6%
2.0%
s. 101 Absentee - advance
42.5%
43.6%
7.6%
4.4%
1.9%
s. 104 Voting in DEO office
45.6%
40.5%
7.1%
4.6%
2.2%
s. 106 Voting by mail
38.2%
45.8%
9.2%
4.8%
1.9%
Grand Total
44.1%
39.7%
8.1%
4.9%
3.1%

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« Reply #561 on: May 23, 2017, 12:30:21 PM »

NDP lead down to 12 votes in Courtenay-Comox. Counting still in progress.
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« Reply #562 on: May 23, 2017, 01:14:22 PM »

Its remarkable how well the NDP si doing over all with the absentees with about half of them counted now

Share of absentee vote   
so far            95,868   
BC Liberals   34,016   35.48%
NDP                   42,876   44.72%
Greens           16,732   17.45%
Other          2,244   2.34%
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« Reply #563 on: May 23, 2017, 02:07:15 PM »

Liberals are now ahead in Courtenay-Comox by three votes Sad Still in progress though.
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« Reply #564 on: May 23, 2017, 02:43:17 PM »

Liberals are now ahead in Courtenay-Comox by three votes Sad Still in progress though.

They counted 137 out of 2,077 absentees so far so we have a loong way to go there. Keep in mind that there are different categories of absentee votes (e.g. absentee out of ED, absent out of the country, voted at DRO, mobile hospital votes etc...) so its quite possible that the 137 that they counted today were all of one particular sub-category of absentee votes
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« Reply #565 on: May 23, 2017, 04:13:44 PM »

Counting is done in Richmond-Queensborough. Liberals win by 124 votes.
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« Reply #566 on: May 23, 2017, 06:02:02 PM »

Its remarkable how well the NDP si doing over all with the absentees with about half of them counted now

Share of absentee vote   
so far            95,868   
BC Liberals   34,016   35.48%
NDP                   42,876   44.72%
Greens           16,732   17.45%
Other          2,244   2.34%

In 2005, the NDP received the plurality of absentee votes while, at the same time, losing two ridings where they were ahead on election day .  Both of them were ridings with former NDP MLAs trying to make a comeback: Tim Stevenson in Vancouver and Pietro Calendino in Burnaby.  (Also, both had subsequently been elected to their respective city councils.)
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« Reply #567 on: May 23, 2017, 07:04:06 PM »

No further counting seems to have been done since the noon update in Courtenay-Comox; the lead (BCL +3 votes) and total vote count has not changed since then.
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« Reply #568 on: May 23, 2017, 07:05:10 PM »

counting is done for the day, will resume tomorrow.

Liberal popular vote lead is down to just 3000.
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« Reply #569 on: May 23, 2017, 07:12:14 PM »

No further counting seems to have been done since the noon update in Courtenay-Comox; the lead (BCL +3 votes) and total vote count has not changed since then.

Actually, I just noticed that Elections BC tweeted that Courtenay-Comox will be updated later today.
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« Reply #570 on: May 23, 2017, 07:47:34 PM »
« Edited: May 23, 2017, 07:50:22 PM by Deputy Game Moderator 1184AZ »

Still counting but NDP up 10481-10380 in Courtenay-Comox.

http://electionsbcenr.blob.core.windows.net/electionsbcenr/ed/GE-2017-05-09_Courtenay-Comox.html

Edit: That is with roughly 56% of the absentee ballots being counted.
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« Reply #571 on: May 24, 2017, 09:15:44 AM »

I suspect given the trend in absentees the NDP will end up winning Courtenay-Comox by close to 200 votes when all the dust settles and then I predict that my the end of June John Horgan will be sworn in as Premier leading a minority NDP government with Green support and that government will last at least two years if not more
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« Reply #572 on: May 24, 2017, 09:51:43 AM »

I suspect given the trend in absentees the NDP will end up winning Courtenay-Comox by close to 200 votes when all the dust settles and then I predict that my the end of June John Horgan will be sworn in as Premier leading a minority NDP government with Green support and that government will last at least two years if not more

I agree that Courtenay-Comox will go NDP at this point, but will disagree with the latter point. (maybe if the NDP wins the popular vote?)

I don't think the Greens are stupid enough to enter into any formal coalitions and or any agreements with the party that finishes second in seats and the popular vote.
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« Reply #573 on: May 24, 2017, 11:19:05 AM »

I suspect given the trend in absentees the NDP will end up winning Courtenay-Comox by close to 200 votes when all the dust settles and then I predict that my the end of June John Horgan will be sworn in as Premier leading a minority NDP government with Green support and that government will last at least two years if not more

I agree that Courtenay-Comox will go NDP at this point, but will disagree with the latter point. (maybe if the NDP wins the popular vote?)

I don't think the Greens are stupid enough to enter into any formal coalitions and or any agreements with the party that finishes second in seats and the popular vote.

Why would that matter? Majority is a majority.
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« Reply #574 on: May 24, 2017, 11:33:57 AM »

I suspect given the trend in absentees the NDP will end up winning Courtenay-Comox by close to 200 votes when all the dust settles and then I predict that my the end of June John Horgan will be sworn in as Premier leading a minority NDP government with Green support and that government will last at least two years if not more

I agree that Courtenay-Comox will go NDP at this point, but will disagree with the latter point. (maybe if the NDP wins the popular vote?)

I don't think the Greens are stupid enough to enter into any formal coalitions and or any agreements with the party that finishes second in seats and the popular vote.

Why would that matter? Majority is a majority.

Because: Canadian politics.
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