The Search for the next Obama

[Mr. Smith]

We need the next FDR at this point.


EDIT: And ninjaed by GoTfan.

This.

And we have to hope trump continues acting like some Jimmy Carter who barely defeated Ford/Nixon to make even that work.

[drwho1]

booker

[pppolitics]

Maybe we can get Michelle to run as a backdoor to get the Obamas back into the White House.

[pbrower2a]

Barack Obama is just too unique to have an obvious analogue. The most similar President I see to him is Dwight Eisenhower/

What matters most will be that the Republicans will allow a free and fair election in 2020. People who believe that their unrestrained greed is the highest purpose in political and economic life and hold the power to inflict and enforce such generally do not yield power except out of fear of the guillotine or firing squad.

[LLR]

Keith Ellison?

There's a problem: he's Muslim.

So is Obama

[ProgressiveCanadian]

Keith Ellison?

There's a problem: he's Muslim.

WONDERFUL!!!

[Confused Democrat]

We need the next FDR at this point.


EDIT: And ninjaed by GoTfan.

This.

And we have to hope trump continues acting like some Jimmy Carter who barely defeated Ford/Nixon to make even that work.

Who the hell would that next FDR be though?

The Democratic bench is so weak right now. Corey Booker? Kirsten Gillibrand? I feel like none of the names floating around right now can fill that much needed role of "next FDR."

I feel like Bernie was close to being that guy, but he was too old and little too "out there." 

[m4567]

Under the right circumstances, I think Warren could win in 2020.

[Confused Democrat]

Under the right circumstances, I think Warren could win in 2020.

I think so too.

[Attorney General, LGC Speaker, and Former PPT Dwarven Dragon]

We'll find the next Obama as soon as the Republicans find the next Reagan.

The next reagan won the presidency last week.

[Zioneer]

We need the next FDR at this point.


EDIT: And ninjaed by GoTfan.

This.

And we have to hope trump continues acting like some Jimmy Carter who barely defeated Ford/Nixon to make even that work.

Who the hell would that next FDR be though?

The Democratic bench is so weak right now. Corey Booker? Kirsten Gillibrand? I feel like none of the names floating around right now can fill that much needed role of "next FDR."

I feel like Bernie was close to being that guy, but he was too old and little too "out there." 

Technically FDR ran on a fairly conservative platform before getting into the presidency and then realized he needed a much more expansive, left-wing solution. So maybe we should look for someone who runs as a semi-conservative but is actually left-wing? I don't know, the exact analogy doesn't seem to fit modern politics that well.

But I do agree that the Democratic bench is very lightweight at this point. Maybe Kamala Harris? I'm not sure.

[MasterJedi]

If the 2008 primaries had been as rigged as the 2016 ones, there wouldn't have been a President Obama.

Truest statement I've seen in awhile.

Mythiest statement I've heard in awhile. There was no "rigging", Obama won for the same reason Clinton did, the AA vote allowed her to rack up YUGE margins in the south. There was no "active resistance" to Sanders from the DNC until May when it became mathematically impossible for him to win. Then the Russians came in with their propaganda spreading lies about the DNC and got all the gullibles to buy it.

[Virginiá]

Technically FDR ran on a fairly conservative platform before getting into the presidency and then realized he needed a much more expansive, left-wing solution. So maybe we should look for someone who runs as a semi-conservative but is actually left-wing? I don't know, the exact analogy doesn't seem to fit modern politics that well.

But I do agree that the Democratic bench is very lightweight at this point. Maybe Kamala Harris? I'm not sure.

That's why I don't think people should always immediately write off politicians that at first appear to be "not liberal enough," or too wealthy, or whatever. They could surprise you. It's not always so black and white.

However, I feel it's worth noting here that FDR/Democrats had massive majorities in Congress for the first 6 years (and still significant majorities up until 1942), which allowed him to pass so many favorable policies. Democrats also had huge support at the state level, so that helped too. It's not enough to just want another FDR-like president. We need a governing coalition large enough to implement the policies we are fighting for. That's a much more difficult goal.

[Zioneer]

Technically FDR ran on a fairly conservative platform before getting into the presidency and then realized he needed a much more expansive, left-wing solution. So maybe we should look for someone who runs as a semi-conservative but is actually left-wing? I don't know, the exact analogy doesn't seem to fit modern politics that well.

But I do agree that the Democratic bench is very lightweight at this point. Maybe Kamala Harris? I'm not sure.

That's why I don't think people should always immediately write off politicians that at first appear to be "not liberal enough," or too wealthy, or whatever. They could surprise you. It's not always so black and white.

However, I feel it's worth noting here that FDR/Democrats had massive majorities in Congress for the first 6 years (and still significant majorities up until 1942), which allowed him to pass so many favorable policies. Democrats also had huge support at the state level, so that helped too. It's not enough to just want another FDR-like president. We need a governing coalition large enough to implement the policies we are fighting for. That's a much more difficult goal.

Exactly, though I'm still a little concerned about some of the financially center/right Democrats these days. Less backbone so far.

And of course, that majority was elected with FDR, so we can't tell if a potential modern-day "FDR" will govern that way unless they get Democratic majorities elected along with themselves.

[Blue3]

We need the next FDR at this point.


EDIT: And ninjaed by GoTfan.

This.

And we have to hope trump continues acting like some Jimmy Carter who barely defeated Ford/Nixon to make even that work.

Who the hell would that next FDR be though?

The Democratic bench is so weak right now. Corey Booker? Kirsten Gillibrand? I feel like none of the names floating around right now can fill that much needed role of "next FDR."

I feel like Bernie was close to being that guy, but he was too old and little too "out there." 

Technically FDR ran on a fairly conservative platform before getting into the presidency and then realized he needed a much more expansive, left-wing solution. So maybe we should look for someone who runs as a semi-conservative but is actually left-wing? I don't know, the exact analogy doesn't seem to fit modern politics that well.

But I do agree that the Democratic bench is very lightweight at this point. Maybe Kamala Harris? I'm not sure.

That's close to what I thought Hillary would be.

[NHI]

This is kind of like Republicans looking for the new Reagan.

[Confused Democrat]

We need the next FDR at this point.


EDIT: And ninjaed by GoTfan.

This.

And we have to hope trump continues acting like some Jimmy Carter who barely defeated Ford/Nixon to make even that work.

Who the hell would that next FDR be though?

The Democratic bench is so weak right now. Corey Booker? Kirsten Gillibrand? I feel like none of the names floating around right now can fill that much needed role of "next FDR."

I feel like Bernie was close to being that guy, but he was too old and little too "out there." 

Technically FDR ran on a fairly conservative platform before getting into the presidency and then realized he needed a much more expansive, left-wing solution. So maybe we should look for someone who runs as a semi-conservative but is actually left-wing? I don't know, the exact analogy doesn't seem to fit modern politics that well.

But I do agree that the Democratic bench is very lightweight at this point. Maybe Kamala Harris? I'm not sure.

That's close to what I thought Hillary would be.

Hillary would have been a better candidate if she didn't have so much "baggage," and had an authentic personality like Bill and Obama.

She also would have done better if she focused mostly on the issues and her vision for the country. Instead her entire campaign was focused on disqualifying Donald Trump.

[swky_0rn]

I like too see joe Kennedy run/

[Confused Democrat]

Booker is a great value Obama

This is so true lol

[Mr. Smith]

Booker is a great value Obama

This is so true lol

I see what you did there

[Citizen (The) Doctor]

The amount of myopia in this thread is hilarious and depressing.

[LLR]

I like too see joe Kennedy run/

I guess some people are into that.

[Bootes Void]

With a Biden win, people will stop with this crap

[Person Man]

With a Biden win, people will stop with this crap

A lot is still left to be desired.

[Blue3]

Democrats were searching for "the next JFK" until Obama, so probably not for a while.