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« on: November 14, 2016, 10:30:37 PM »

We need the next FDR at this point.


EDIT: And ninjaed by GoTfan.
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Zioneer
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Junior Chimp
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« Reply #1 on: November 15, 2016, 01:21:07 PM »

We need the next FDR at this point.


EDIT: And ninjaed by GoTfan.

This.

And we have to hope trump continues acting like some Jimmy Carter who barely defeated Ford/Nixon to make even that work.

Who the hell would that next FDR be though?

The Democratic bench is so weak right now. Corey Booker? Kirsten Gillibrand? I feel like none of the names floating around right now can fill that much needed role of "next FDR."

I feel like Bernie was close to being that guy, but he was too old and little too "out there." 

Technically FDR ran on a fairly conservative platform before getting into the presidency and then realized he needed a much more expansive, left-wing solution. So maybe we should look for someone who runs as a semi-conservative but is actually left-wing? I don't know, the exact analogy doesn't seem to fit modern politics that well.

But I do agree that the Democratic bench is very lightweight at this point. Maybe Kamala Harris? I'm not sure.
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« Reply #2 on: November 15, 2016, 02:44:08 PM »

Technically FDR ran on a fairly conservative platform before getting into the presidency and then realized he needed a much more expansive, left-wing solution. So maybe we should look for someone who runs as a semi-conservative but is actually left-wing? I don't know, the exact analogy doesn't seem to fit modern politics that well.

But I do agree that the Democratic bench is very lightweight at this point. Maybe Kamala Harris? I'm not sure.

That's why I don't think people should always immediately write off politicians that at first appear to be "not liberal enough," or too wealthy, or whatever. They could surprise you. It's not always so black and white.

However, I feel it's worth noting here that FDR/Democrats had massive majorities in Congress for the first 6 years (and still significant majorities up until 1942), which allowed him to pass so many favorable policies. Democrats also had huge support at the state level, so that helped too. It's not enough to just want another FDR-like president. We need a governing coalition large enough to implement the policies we are fighting for. That's a much more difficult goal.


Exactly, though I'm still a little concerned about some of the financially center/right Democrats these days. Less backbone so far.

And of course, that majority was elected with FDR, so we can't tell if a potential modern-day "FDR" will govern that way unless they get Democratic majorities elected along with themselves.
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