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« Reply #50 on: November 16, 2016, 08:36:26 PM »

Over 50% of Americans rejected Trump and he didn't even get the most votes. He only won because of an archaic 18th century system designed to protect slave states. Sad!

You lost.

Get over it.


Winfield I'm curious as to why you think people don't have the right to criticize our electoral process?
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« Reply #51 on: November 16, 2016, 08:44:56 PM »

Hahahahaha! Suck it Republicans. Not only did you lose here, you lost BAD and Hillary won a majority. You should feel completely embarrassed losing this longtime GOP county like this.

Hahahahaha!

We won the Presidency, the Vice Presidency, the U.S. Senate, the U.S. House of Representatives, and the power to appoint to the U.S. Supreme Court.


But you didn't win Orange County, California
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« Reply #52 on: November 16, 2016, 08:49:24 PM »

Over 50% of Americans rejected Trump and he didn't even get the most votes. He only won because of an archaic 18th century system designed to protect slave states. Sad!

You lost.

Get over it.



Obama won the popular vote and the electoral vote, yet you never accepted that he won. So, who are you to take this stance?

And it's Trump who can't get over the fact that he lost the popular vote. Maybe you should talk to him about "getting over it".
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« Reply #53 on: November 16, 2016, 08:54:06 PM »

Why are all these Republican Trump trolls hijacking the OC thread, instead of discussing issues like the PV/EV, WWC voters in the MidWest, etc, etc, etc....

Mods: Not saying you need to ban all these folks, but the thread has become so OT, where we can't even have a discussion about changing voting patterns in OC without it being hijacked by a mixture of trolls, and people squabbling about the GE results, that it is effectively a meaningless crap thread.

Posters: If you don't have anything to say about OC in particular, please move on down the road. Plenty of other threads that are more appropriate to have discussions and bitch fests about the election results and gloating.... Really people?Huh
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« Reply #54 on: November 16, 2016, 09:03:33 PM »
« Edited: November 16, 2016, 09:05:44 PM by Pericles »


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« Reply #55 on: November 16, 2016, 09:12:19 PM »

I actually have to agree with the Republicans in this thread; I would gladly lose Orange County if it means getting the Midwest back.
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« Reply #56 on: November 16, 2016, 09:40:03 PM »

I have always accepted Obama's victories in 2008 and 2012.

I believe strongly that everyone has the right to disagree with the Electoral College system of choosing the President.

And yes, I fully admit that it would have been much more preferable, as a Republican, to have had Trump win in Orange County, California.
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« Reply #57 on: November 17, 2016, 01:38:57 AM »
« Edited: November 17, 2016, 01:48:39 AM by Sbane »

It will be interesting to look at the precinct results once they are published to see where the major swings happened in OC....

Was it the result of a huge shift in Vietnamese (and other Asian-Americans) swinging hard towards the Democrats? Was it the result of a voting surge and swing among Latino-Americans? Was it the wealthy Anglos living up in the hillsides and beach condos that typically voted Republican rejecting the Trumpist brand of Republicanism?

Or was it all of the above?

Regardless, of some of the sniping going on in this thread, I am actually interested in the changing political coalitions in the sixth largest county in the US, regardless of if they happen in traditionally Republican or Democratic counties....

There are plenty of other threads to squabble about the outcome of the election in, but since this one happens to be about OC swinging hard to the Democrats....

For example, it appears that despite the Senate election only had two Democrats on the ballot, there wasn't the type of dramatic drop-off in votes between the Presidential and Senate elections that one might expect in a traditionally Republican County.

Anyways, still looking forward to seeing precinct level results from OC once this is over so that we can understand what happened in OC that caused such a dramatic shift, in essentially the only remaining large Republican population center in Cali....

You can see the precinct results mapped here. It looks like Trump fell hardest in the Cypress/La Palma/Buena Park/west Anaheim area. Parts of Garden Grove and Irvine also swung hard to Clinton. I would guess therefore that it was the Asian areas that were most responsible for the swing with some increased Hispanic turnout for good measure.
So it looks like the myth of wealthy and retired Republican Anglos in OC swinging hard towards the Democrats did not happen, at least looking at the map and seeing the solid sea of Trump purple in the wealthy Beach communities of OC, as well as the SE hills/canyons of OC.

Not so fast! Remember, those beach communities and southern OC are pretty Republican to begin with. Even a large swing might not change the map much. It is indisputable that the main swing came from the Vietnamese areas along with places like Cypress, Fullerton, Buena Park and Irvine which have a large Asian population. Lots of Koreans in north OC areas like Fullerton and Buena Park and lots of Chinese in Irvine. That being said look at the results in Aliso Viejo, a wealthy mostly white south OC city. It was basically tied in 2012 but Clinton seems to have won almost every precinct this time around. Clinton won Mimi Walters and Dana Rohrbacher's districts.  Has anyone calculated the preliminary city results in Orange County and compared them to 2012? I think we would see a lot of swing in south OC as well as the beach. Now, inland anglo areas like Yorba Linda and the Anaheim Hills are another issue. Those areas probably didn't swing as much to Clinton, if at all.
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« Reply #58 on: November 17, 2016, 02:08:01 AM »

Remember when this forum was for discussion of election data and not partisan s**t-talk?
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« Reply #59 on: November 17, 2016, 03:41:39 AM »

They feel insecure that most people rejected them. They know they are the minority.

lol. You lost, get over it.

On the contrary, we all won bigly this year. The grand prize? A miserable, miserable death in the nuclear hellfire that will be the Climate Refugee World War 2 Electric Boogaloo that starts when Uday and Qusay get a bit reckless when droning refugees in the Pacific and accidentally torch off a Chinese patrol boat.
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« Reply #60 on: November 17, 2016, 10:27:11 AM »

Hahahahaha! Suck it Republicans. Not only did you lose here, you lost BAD and Hillary won a majority. You should feel completely embarrassed losing this longtime GOP county like this.

Hahahahaha!

We won the Presidency, the Vice Presidency, the U.S. Senate, the U.S. House of Representatives, and the power to appoint to the U.S. Supreme Court.

The vast majority of Americans support women's reproductive rights (and more generally, the right to bodily privacy), marriage equality, the separation of church and state, steps to curb climate change, and individual rights over corporations.  The Republicans were brought into power because the Democrats have failed economically, but if the Republicans plan to pursue an agenda challenging these American values, they can expect to pay for it in future elections.

Furthermore, the rights of the individual are not subject to the whims of the electorate.  That's why we have a Bill of Rights.
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« Reply #61 on: November 18, 2016, 10:29:23 PM »

Remember when this forum was for discussion of election data and not partisan s**t-talk?

as someone who has been a member here for going on twelve years now - no, there has literally never been a time when the year-specific Presidential Election boards were anything other than partisan poop talk
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« Reply #62 on: November 19, 2016, 03:39:30 AM »

So according to the latest OC update Clinton is now up 7.7% in the County!!!

Needless to say, I would not be surprised to see these margins creep up further as provisional ballots start to be counted....

Regardless of all of the partisan squabbling on the thread, OC appears to have not only flipped Democratic, but flipped Hard-Dem....
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« Reply #63 on: November 19, 2016, 06:49:34 PM »

The OP was a waaaaaaaay more effective piece of trolling than it had any right to be Tongue
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