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Question: I supported (at the time it happened...)
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DavidB.
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« on: November 16, 2016, 03:08:48 PM »

These issues are highly interconnected, yet I find myself on two different sides in the two debates, which confuses me and causes me to reconsider my support for the Leave side (as well as the events that have unfolded since Brexit, such as prominent Leavers and UKIP supporting leaving the single market as well).

Are there more people that find themselves on both sides of the debates? This question is about one's support at the time these events happened, so if you changed your mind on one of them, please answer "without hindsight".

As for partisan affiliation, choose whatever suited you before Trump was elected.

Leave/Clinton (R) here.
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« Reply #1 on: November 16, 2016, 03:58:58 PM »

Leave/Trump (R), but I don't have any emotional investment in the Brexit. I'm glad the right side won, but it isn't my place to really comment on it due to my only minuscule knowledge of the current UK political landscape.
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« Reply #2 on: November 16, 2016, 04:10:52 PM »

Remain/Clinton (R)
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« Reply #3 on: November 16, 2016, 04:24:13 PM »

Remain/Clinton (D, Sane)
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« Reply #4 on: November 16, 2016, 04:25:30 PM »

Remain/Clinton.  I'm embarrassed to say I was on the fence up until the day of the vote, at which point during the night I was outright panicking at the result because I expected the US economy to take a major hit in the aftermath.  So far, the exit process itself is looking to be a complete disaster, so I feel a bit vindicated.
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« Reply #5 on: November 16, 2016, 04:27:11 PM »

Remain/Trump/(D) Shocked
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« Reply #6 on: November 16, 2016, 04:39:06 PM »

Leave/Trump/R
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« Reply #7 on: November 16, 2016, 09:41:51 PM »

Leave/Clinton/D
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« Reply #8 on: November 17, 2016, 05:11:57 AM »

Leave/Neither/R
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« Reply #9 on: November 17, 2016, 06:28:08 AM »

Standard progressive- Remain/Clinton
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« Reply #10 on: November 17, 2016, 07:35:59 AM »

Believe it or not I know several Remainers (all Tories) who backed Trump. Probably the kind of people who'd back Dipsy or Po if either were the Republican nominee but w/e.

Anyway, Leave/Joesph McCarthy (write-in)/ (Labour)
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« Reply #11 on: November 17, 2016, 08:33:06 AM »

Believe it or not I know several Remainers (all Tories) who backed Trump. Probably the kind of people who'd back Dipsy or Po if either were the Republican nominee but w/e.

Anyway, Leave/Joesph McCarthy (write-in)/ (Labour)

I imagine many others wrote in Ted Cruz/his twin.
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« Reply #12 on: November 17, 2016, 08:56:20 AM »

Remain/Clinton (R)

I'm not really enthusiastic about the EU but leaving the single market would be bad for the UK and the only possible way to remain in the single market while leaving the EU would be the Norway option in which you have to accept all EU regulations and freedom of movement without having anything to say about those regulations. And we need the UK to stand up against an EU army.
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« Reply #13 on: November 17, 2016, 09:11:48 AM »

So this is a question about #Walls and #Nets?
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« Reply #14 on: November 17, 2016, 09:30:07 AM »

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I'm not really enthusiastic about the EU but leaving the single market would be bad for the UK and the only possible way to remain in the single market while leaving the EU would be the Norway option in which you have to accept all EU regulations and freedom of movement without having anything to say about those regulations. And we need the UK to stand up against an EU army.

That response was going so well until it wildly derailed in the last sentence. My answer is the same minus the strikeout.
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« Reply #15 on: November 17, 2016, 09:35:46 AM »

I mean the best argument for Remain is how tedious and ultimately useless this long Brexit debate is. I mean it's all very well for you  Americans who are cheering on victory against the evuhl globalists or whatever, but the fact is we have to sit on a decade or so where all legislative discussion is consumed by arcane constitutional blather of little relevance to the average person.
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« Reply #16 on: November 17, 2016, 02:58:52 PM »

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« Reply #17 on: November 17, 2016, 03:12:39 PM »
« Edited: November 17, 2016, 03:14:21 PM by DavidB. »

Remain/Clinton (R)

I'm not really enthusiastic about the EU but leaving the single market would be bad for the UK and the only possible way to remain in the single market while leaving the EU would be the Norway option in which you have to accept all EU regulations and freedom of movement without having anything to say about those regulations. And we need the UK to stand up against an EU army.
That response was going so well until it wildly derailed in the last sentence. My answer is the same minus the strikeout.
Eh, for someone from Europe it isn't exactly strange to oppose the bizarre idea of an EU army.

Anyway, I supported a smart Brexit in which the UK would go for a Norwegian-like option with single market access, but apparently I underestimated the masochism of some Brexiteers, who think a trade deal with New Zealand is more important than one with the EU. Insanity. Hope the govt isn't going along with that, but people are going to be mad anyway, so it's becoming a lose-lose situation.
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« Reply #18 on: November 17, 2016, 03:20:06 PM »

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« Reply #19 on: November 17, 2016, 04:56:06 PM »

Leave/Clinton/I
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« Reply #20 on: November 17, 2016, 05:59:21 PM »

Remain/Clinton (D, cares about more than giving a middle finger to 'muh elites')
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« Reply #21 on: November 17, 2016, 06:35:46 PM »

Remain/Clinton (R)

I'm not really enthusiastic about the EU but leaving the single market would be bad for the UK and the only possible way to remain in the single market while leaving the EU would be the Norway option in which you have to accept all EU regulations and freedom of movement without having anything to say about those regulations. And we need the UK to stand up against an EU army.
That response was going so well until it wildly derailed in the last sentence. My answer is the same minus the strikeout.
Eh, for someone from Europe it isn't exactly strange to oppose the bizarre idea of an EU army.

Anyway, I supported a smart Brexit in which the UK would go for a Norwegian-like option with single market access, but apparently I underestimated the masochism of some Brexiteers, who think a trade deal with New Zealand is more important than one with the EU. Insanity. Hope the govt isn't going along with that, but people are going to be mad anyway, so it's becoming a lose-lose situation.

Of course in a sane world trade 'deals' wouldn't be a thing; we'd just, you know, trade.
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« Reply #22 on: November 17, 2016, 06:37:50 PM »

Was: Remain/Clinton (D)
Now: Leave/Clinton (D)
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« Reply #23 on: November 19, 2016, 07:23:20 PM »

Remain/Other (R)
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« Reply #24 on: November 20, 2016, 06:38:19 PM »

Leave/Other (I/O)
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