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« Reply #25 on: November 29, 2016, 08:47:30 PM »

Huntsman seems like a Chuck Hagel type to me.  Not neocon but not a Ron Paul type.  I can live with that.

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« Reply #26 on: November 29, 2016, 08:58:28 PM »

Hatch is leaning towards running.
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« Reply #27 on: November 29, 2016, 08:59:40 PM »


This is why the senate needs term limits.
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« Reply #28 on: November 29, 2016, 09:37:53 PM »

Huntsman seems like a Chuck Hagel type to me.  Not neocon but not a Ron Paul type.  I can live with that.
Absolutely! Anything to keep McMullin out of there.
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« Reply #29 on: December 01, 2016, 07:54:34 PM »

Would Huntsman run as a Blue Dog Democrat, Republican, Libertarian, or independent?
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« Reply #30 on: December 01, 2016, 09:07:23 PM »

Would Huntsman run as a Blue Dog Democrat, Republican, Libertarian, or independent?

In the Bloomberg article he says he will definitely run as a Republican.
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« Reply #31 on: December 01, 2016, 09:15:50 PM »

Pls... McMuffin....
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« Reply #32 on: December 02, 2016, 01:50:09 PM »

I like the idea of either McMuffin or Huntsman as Senators.
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« Reply #33 on: December 02, 2016, 01:57:04 PM »

Huntsman probably wouldn't serve for more than two terms at best.
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« Reply #34 on: December 02, 2016, 01:59:04 PM »

Please McMullin run as an independent! Please Ben McAdams, run for the Democratic nomination!!
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« Reply #35 on: December 02, 2016, 02:11:50 PM »

McMullin or Huntsman would be decent.
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« Reply #36 on: December 03, 2016, 12:20:17 AM »

"What do you call a Senator who's served in office for 18 years? You call him home."

--Orrin Hatch, 1976
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« Reply #37 on: December 03, 2016, 12:32:14 AM »

"What do you call a Senator who's served in office for 18 years? You call him home."

--Orrin Hatch, 1976

What do you call a Senator who's served in office for 42 years? Nursing home?
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« Reply #38 on: December 03, 2016, 02:27:41 AM »

"What do you call a Senator who's served in office for 18 years? You call him home."

--Orrin Hatch, 1976

In order to gain a good bit of clout for your state you almost have to serve for 18 years.
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« Reply #39 on: December 03, 2016, 02:32:26 AM »

It'll be incredibly satisfying if Huntsman wins in a primary against Hatch.
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« Reply #40 on: December 03, 2016, 02:37:58 AM »

Mormons don't actually like Huntsman anymore, though. McMullin's much more popular in Utah than he is.
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« Reply #41 on: December 03, 2016, 03:03:39 AM »

I would not mind a Senator McMullin personally. I am more tolerant of Republicans if they are LDS. Mainly because they practice what they preach. They actually help the poor in their church, and unlike most Republican states, Utah's economy is solid.

As I said on IRC, there is a very narrow but plausible path for the Democrats to win the Senate seat in Utah in 2018. But it is unlikely.

1) Trump must remain unpopular with Mormons. He enters office as very unpopular and won the state with less than half the vote by a margin!

2) Democrats must recruit Ben McAdams or long shot Jim Matheson to run.

3) There must be at least a viable third party candidate

4) The Democratic candidate would have to find a way to unite the 2016 McMullin and Clinton supporters together as an Anti Trump.

Remember Trumps unpopularity in Utah is real. He only won it because 1) It is a Republican State and 2) Hillary Clinton is very unpopular also.

Also remember, Midterms have different dynamics and often have surprising results.

I am not saying the above situation is likely to happen, but it could. That being said, if McAdams is successful in winning that Senate Contest, he would likely be a one termer. But he would have nothing to lose by running in 2018. Win or Lose, he would still be Salt Lake County Mayor.

So please, McMullin run as an independent and please McAdams run for Utah Senate! ha ha ha.
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« Reply #42 on: December 03, 2016, 03:22:17 AM »

I think Hatch is going to run again honestly.
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« Reply #43 on: December 03, 2016, 05:45:58 AM »


Please run, Jonny. Too sad that he isn't considered for Secretary of State.
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« Reply #44 on: December 03, 2016, 01:17:20 PM »

Oh my God imagine Thad's reaction if he never gets to be PPT
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« Reply #45 on: December 03, 2016, 04:30:17 PM »

I would not mind a Senator McMullin personally. I am more tolerant of Republicans if they are LDS. Mainly because they practice what they preach. They actually help the poor in their church, and unlike most Republican states, Utah's economy is solid.

As I said on IRC, there is a very narrow but plausible path for the Democrats to win the Senate seat in Utah in 2018. But it is unlikely.

1) Trump must remain unpopular with Mormons. He enters office as very unpopular and won the state with less than half the vote by a margin!

2) Democrats must recruit Ben McAdams or long shot Jim Matheson to run.

3) There must be at least a viable third party candidate

4) The Democratic candidate would have to find a way to unite the 2016 McMullin and Clinton supporters together as an Anti Trump.

Remember Trumps unpopularity in Utah is real. He only won it because 1) It is a Republican State and 2) Hillary Clinton is very unpopular also.

Also remember, Midterms have different dynamics and often have surprising results.

I am not saying the above situation is likely to happen, but it could. That being said, if McAdams is successful in winning that Senate Contest, he would likely be a one termer. But he would have nothing to lose by running in 2018. Win or Lose, he would still be Salt Lake County Mayor.
So please, McMullin run as an independent and please McAdams run for Utah Senate! ha ha ha.
I disagree with one part I think Matheson might be the better D canidate than McAdams because he seems to have a natch for winning races in Utah that people thought was safe R
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« Reply #46 on: December 03, 2016, 04:39:10 PM »

Is Hatch unpopular? Why would he lose a primary?
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« Reply #47 on: December 03, 2016, 10:12:10 PM »

I would not mind a Senator McMullin personally. I am more tolerant of Republicans if they are LDS. Mainly because they practice what they preach. They actually help the poor in their church, and unlike most Republican states, Utah's economy is solid.

As I said on IRC, there is a very narrow but plausible path for the Democrats to win the Senate seat in Utah in 2018. But it is unlikely.

1) Trump must remain unpopular with Mormons. He enters office as very unpopular and won the state with less than half the vote by a margin!

2) Democrats must recruit Ben McAdams or long shot Jim Matheson to run.

3) There must be at least a viable third party candidate

4) The Democratic candidate would have to find a way to unite the 2016 McMullin and Clinton supporters together as an Anti Trump.

Remember Trumps unpopularity in Utah is real. He only won it because 1) It is a Republican State and 2) Hillary Clinton is very unpopular also.

Also remember, Midterms have different dynamics and often have surprising results.

I am not saying the above situation is likely to happen, but it could. That being said, if McAdams is successful in winning that Senate Contest, he would likely be a one termer. But he would have nothing to lose by running in 2018. Win or Lose, he would still be Salt Lake County Mayor.
So please, McMullin run as an independent and please McAdams run for Utah Senate! ha ha ha.
I disagree with one part I think Matheson might be the better D canidate than McAdams because he seems to have a natch for winning races in Utah that people thought was safe R

I think Matheson is more long-shot because of his lobbyist job, rather than being less likely to win. He's more likely to stay out of the race altogether.
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« Reply #48 on: December 03, 2016, 10:39:43 PM »

People need to get over Matheson. He's a lobbyist shill now (or that's how he'll be seen by many) and we've seen several times in the recent past that when you spin the revolving door of cash and politics and enter on the latter side, you lose.
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« Reply #49 on: December 04, 2016, 03:08:28 AM »

People need to get over Matheson. He's a lobbyist shill now (or that's how he'll be seen by many) and we've seen several times in the recent past that when you spin the revolving door of cash and politics and enter on the latter side, you lose.

Yes, I agree with you and Zioneer on this.

Matheson is over. It is a big if, but governor might be possible for in 2020 if he wants. But I really do not think he wants to campaign again. It is tiring to do that every two years when nearly 2/3 of your district is not your party.

McAdams has the best chance to win statewide.
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