"This Obama guy is an urban Harvard elitist liberal from Chicago, he has absolutely no appeal in white-working class America. BAYH/LIEBERMAN '08"
That was 4 years ago, and the democratic brand was as toxic to the Democratic Party as I think is now, and Obama had horrible numbers in white working class America, in 2012 then other democratic candidates.
So you are ACTUALLY saying Bayh/Lieberman would have been a smarter ticket for Democrats? You're agreeing with my strawman argument?
No, but obama was horrible, Bayh is horrible, but he would have broader appeal to working class Americans. A Clinton/Dean ticket would have been good. In 08' she had a brand of working class populist, and working families vibes, in touch to with more rural working America, in 16' her appeal was the complete opposite.