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« Reply #175 on: January 10, 2017, 03:16:49 PM »

Either the polls are wrong, again, or people have lost their minds. Angry So, based on this numbers, 20% of Trump voters disapprove him... OK.

Pretty much every Republican/conservative I know either didn't vote, voted for Johnson, or voted for Trump but despise him.

Maybe I'm in cloistered circles, but I've never once met an enthusiastic Trump supporter, and I lived in Spokane for 4 years
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« Reply #176 on: January 10, 2017, 03:20:59 PM »

They were a bit off as well, but I was talking about the NC poll (and state polls in general).

I don't know the answer to this, but I'm curious: Were the RV state polls in 2016 more accurate than the LV state polls?  Because all the favorability polls in this thread are obviously RV polls.

I'm just wondering if the 2016 state polls were off in part because pollsters were assuming that the likely voters would look like the likely voters did in 2012.
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« Reply #177 on: January 10, 2017, 03:35:52 PM »

Either the polls are wrong, again, or people have lost their minds. Angry So, based on this numbers, 20% of Trump voters disapprove him... OK.

Pretty much every Republican/conservative I know either didn't vote, voted for Johnson, or voted for Trump but despise him.

Maybe I'm in cloistered circles, but I've never once met an enthusiastic Trump supporter, and I lived in Spokane for 4 years

Silent support for Trump is a real phenomenon. Just something to consider...
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« Reply #178 on: January 10, 2017, 03:59:02 PM »

The whole Washington Post Story to the recent poll.

These numbers are terrible for an incoming chief executive. Isn't there a "rule" for US officeholders that anybody with an approval rating below 40% has practically no chance for getting reelected?
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« Reply #179 on: January 10, 2017, 04:12:26 PM »

so no honeymoon stage? or, oh god, is this the honeymoon stage?
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« Reply #180 on: January 10, 2017, 05:01:53 PM »
« Edited: January 10, 2017, 05:03:24 PM by pbrower2a »

Honeymoons can be bad experiences. She's a hiker and camper, they're from Greater LA, and they agreed to go to Banff to see nature at its best. He, a compulsive gambler,  decided to take a diversion in Las Vegas and spend the honeymoon funds playing a big-roller in Vegas.  She finds Vegas boring. To keep playing he hocked the car and camping gear to keep playing, and of course he went through that csh... and the honeymoon ends as she sobbingly calls friends and relatives for bus fare home.  

That marriage will not last.

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« Reply #181 on: January 10, 2017, 05:48:26 PM »

Honeymoons can be bad experiences. She's a hiker and camper, they're from Greater LA, and they agreed to go to Banff to see nature at its best. He, a compulsive gambler,  decided to take a diversion in Las Vegas and spend the honeymoon funds playing a big-roller in Vegas.  She finds Vegas boring. To keep playing he hocked the car and camping gear to keep playing, and of course he went through that csh... and the honeymoon ends as she sobbingly calls friends and relatives for bus fare home.  

That marriage will not last.



Sad!
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« Reply #182 on: January 10, 2017, 10:32:17 PM »

Two things:

1. Morning consult and other pollsters have shown better (albeit not great) numbers for Trump

2. Quinnipiac showed a much rosier picture for democrats than what transpired on November 8th, an anti-trump house effect might be showing in his approvals as well
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« Reply #183 on: January 10, 2017, 11:20:19 PM »

Two things:

1. Morning consult and other pollsters have shown better (albeit not great) numbers for Trump

2. Quinnipiac showed a much rosier picture for democrats than what transpired on November 8th, an anti-trump house effect might be showing in his approvals as well
SPIN BABY SPIN
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« Reply #184 on: January 11, 2017, 12:52:44 AM »

Two things:

1. Morning consult and other pollsters have shown better (albeit not great) numbers for Trump

2. Quinnipiac showed a much rosier picture for democrats than what transpired on November 8th, an anti-Trump house effect might be showing in his approvals as well

Donald Trump won with a late surge that few could foresee. But now people have misgivings about what they elected, at least in New York, New Jersey, Maryland, and Virginia. We get to see how North Carolina goes tomorrow. (I was hoping to see Florida, Pennsylvania, or Wisconsin from Quinnipiac... maybe next week.
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« Reply #185 on: January 11, 2017, 08:32:16 AM »

Two things:

1. Morning consult and other pollsters have shown better (albeit not great) numbers for Trump

2. Quinnipiac showed a much rosier picture for democrats than what transpired on November 8th, an anti-trump house effect might be showing in his approvals as well

The polls were fine if you account for undecideds splitting 2:1 for Trump. That would give him a 4 swing and enough to swing Florida, Pennsylvania, and other states where he was behind just at MoE but won by a few thousand votes.

Then again, maybe there was a big Bradley Effect (people voting differently than they poll out of shame) out there.

With no girl or other non-good ol WASP fat cat to run against, maybe people are telling the truth.
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« Reply #186 on: January 11, 2017, 12:30:13 PM »

Economist/YouGov poll, conducted Jan. 7-10:

http://d25d2506sfb94s.cloudfront.net/cumulus_uploads/document/octxvxy91s/econTabReport.pdf

Biden 50/33% for +17%
Obama 52/44% for +8%
Pence 39/36% for +3%
Trump 44/51% for -7%
The Democratic Party 39/48% for -9%
The Republican Party 36/51% for -15%

Trump fav/unfav by household income:
under $50k: 40/51% for -11%
$50-100k: 51/46% for +5%
over $100k: 43/54% for -11%

6% of Clinton voters have a favorable opinion of Trump.  7% of Trump voters have an unfavorable opinion of Trump.
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« Reply #187 on: January 11, 2017, 06:29:38 PM »

Trump's approval rating may only average in the high 30s throughout his term, but they are the the most important 30-something percent of the population. The majority-of-the-majority, so to speak.
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« Reply #188 on: January 11, 2017, 06:42:09 PM »

Trump's approval rating may only average in the high 30s throughout his term, but they are the the most important 30-something percent of the population. The majority-of-the-majority, so to speak.

Is that satire?
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« Reply #189 on: January 11, 2017, 07:08:11 PM »
« Edited: January 12, 2017, 03:39:22 PM by pbrower2a »

Trump's approval rating may only average in the high 30s throughout his term, but they are the the most important 30-something percent of the population. The majority-of-the-majority, so to speak.

When Donald Trump becomes President, 2% of the American public -- the people who own more than 50% of the assets -- will be more important that the rest of America. That is how plutocracy works. There will be no meaningful change in the political reality of America for nearly two years. All hail Lord Mammon Who requireth human sacrifices unto Him!

There will always be snobs and flunkies who think that it is better to be a house slave than a field slave and fear that in the wake of emancipation their privileged state among people far worse-off than them will be at risk if a more just order, one that no longer needs slavery, comes into being. Such people are fools. (Sure that is an exaggeration, and an ugly one... but it has relevance).

Donald Trump winning the Presidential election with slightly more of the popular vote than McCain got in 2008 or Dukakis got in 1988 (and they are considered big losers), less than Kerry in 2004 or Romney in 2012, and less than the winner of the plurality, is a fluke.

It could be that for the next four years the American economic system will dictate that the masses suffer more for the Master Class and pretend to love it. Should that be the permanent state of things in America and I have no means of escape other than pulling the pin on a live grenade, then I will pull the pin on a live grenade. At the end of those four years... 39% approval will not be enough to keep Donald Trump or his successor in power.

It is possible to sell manure. It has its uses. It is impossible to sell human suffering unless one disguises it carefully as some promise to "Make America Great Again".        
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« Reply #190 on: January 12, 2017, 10:45:06 AM »

https://www.peoplespunditdaily.com/latest-polls/opinion-tracking/donald-j-trump-favorable-rating/

PPD, a very accurate polling firm I watched closely this cycle, has Trump at 53-39!
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« Reply #191 on: January 12, 2017, 10:48:21 AM »


Yer funny.
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« Reply #192 on: January 12, 2017, 11:12:54 AM »

Pretty sure that "pollster" had Trump winning the popular vote, which did not happen.
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« Reply #193 on: January 12, 2017, 02:12:47 PM »

Pretty sure that "pollster" had Trump winning the popular vote, which did not happen.

By at least as much as he lost!
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« Reply #194 on: January 12, 2017, 05:39:25 PM »

Pretty sure that "pollster" had Trump winning the popular vote, which did not happen.
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« Reply #195 on: January 12, 2017, 05:43:43 PM »

Pretty sure that "pollster" had Trump winning the popular vote, which did not happen.
Still closer than the polls that had Clinton winning by double digits
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« Reply #196 on: January 12, 2017, 10:03:52 PM »

Pretty sure that "pollster" had Trump winning the popular vote, which did not happen.
Still closer than the polls that had Clinton winning by double digits

The RCP was a like C+2 and everyone else was C+4.  They were T+2 or 3.
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« Reply #197 on: January 13, 2017, 02:49:00 AM »

Pretty sure that "pollster" had Trump winning the popular vote, which did not happen.

By at least as much as he lost!

What means he's not worse than Quinnipiac e.g. Not even speaking of Dem hecks like Target Smart, PPP and Nate Cohns Siena scum. But I guess, that's "different" for you ;-)

Btw, typical left-wing reaction: Don't like the message? Attack the messanger. Disgusting.

Person A: This accurate pollster shows Trump with a higher approval rating than normal.

Person B: Actually that pollster didn't meet the credibility of even 538's loose requirements, and was too favorable to Trump in the end as public data shows.

Person A: Wow you liberal hack.
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« Reply #198 on: January 13, 2017, 05:19:16 AM »

Btw, typical left-wing reaction: Don't like the message? Attack the messanger. Disgusting.

Trump berates CNN reporter: 'You are fake news'

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« Reply #199 on: January 13, 2017, 10:34:04 AM »

Democrats just aren't "giving up" like Republicans did for 6 months with Obama or with Bush both times
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