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« Reply #225 on: January 17, 2017, 03:06:01 PM »

He or Mike Pence might need a whites-only electorate to win re-election.

Fasten your seatbelts. We are in for a bumpy ride.
What wonderful times we live in!

I don't trust an impetuous fool with the red button -- or my civil liberties.
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« Reply #226 on: January 17, 2017, 03:07:52 PM »

And here we go again! The Trumpster just tweeted what I previously predicted/joked:

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The orange clown just never grows up. #LOLDrumpf


Actually sad that he's even wasting his time for bullsh** tweets like this.


He or Mike Pence might need a whites-only electorate to win re-election.

Fasten your seatbelts. We are in for a bumpy ride.

I don't think so. I mean, he's not even in office. These numbers are terrible, absolutely, but he upset once. I won't make such predictions anymore.

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« Reply #227 on: January 17, 2017, 03:17:04 PM »

And here we go again! The Trumpster just tweeted what I previously predicted/joked:

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The orange clown just never grows up. #LOLDrumpf


Again, except for having nice clothes and never being short of cash, Donald Trump reminds me of the semi-literate juvenile delinquents that I knew all too well -- and did everything possible to avoid -- when I was in middle school and high school. The juvenile delinquents either grew up  and took  honest blue-collar jobs (Hooray!) or failed to grow up and ended up in prison for theft or violent crime. 

Nobody has compelled Donald Trump to grow up. He has been exempt from the humiliating (and often humanizing) realities that anyone not born with a silver spoon in his mouth ends up having to endure.
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« Reply #228 on: January 17, 2017, 05:38:17 PM »

New poll from Monmouth U, whose reputation probably took the largest hit among pollsters, conducted from 1/12 - 1/15:

34% Favorable, 46% Unfavorable, 20% No opinion (who are these people?!?)
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« Reply #229 on: January 17, 2017, 05:44:22 PM »

New poll from Monmouth U, whose reputation probably took the largest hit among pollsters, conducted from 1/12 - 1/15:

34% Favorable, 46% Unfavorable, 20% No opinion (who are these people?!?)
Those who will 'give him a chance', much like the 20% or so who had no opinion on Obama. They'll probably become unfavorable.
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« Reply #230 on: January 18, 2017, 09:07:52 AM »

New poll from Monmouth U, whose reputation probably took the largest hit among pollsters, conducted from 1/12 - 1/15:

34% Favorable, 46% Unfavorable, 20% No opinion (who are these people?!?)

The margin is the same as for those pollsters that give Trump favorability around 40%... that negative margin suggests a rough start for the President-Elect.

The only good thing that I can say of it is that if he is going to be down that much, then it had better be early. Can he convince Americans that Corporate America can do more good for them than anyone else, that only the harshest discipline of brutal management and the sting of poverty can force people out of their inherent laziness, and that vicarious delight in the ostentatious display of success by America's 'winners' can bring true happiness? Can his real-estate huckster and reality-TV model of management work well for Americans?

I'd rather watch old movies. Wouldn't you?
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« Reply #231 on: January 18, 2017, 09:56:57 AM »
« Edited: January 18, 2017, 10:05:13 AM by Mr. Morden »

NBC/WSJ national poll, conducted Jan. 12-15:

https://www.scribd.com/document/336831474/17016-NBCWSJ-January-Poll-Final-5-PM-Release

fav/unfav %:
Biden 56/22% for +34%
Pence 35/32% for +3%
Republican Party 35/43% for -8%
Democratic Party 35/44% for -9%
Trump 38/48% for -10%
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« Reply #232 on: January 18, 2017, 10:05:38 AM »

Economist/YouGov poll, conducted Jan. 14-17:

http://d25d2506sfb94s.cloudfront.net/cumulus_uploads/document/fgqecf80as/econTabReport.pdf

Biden 55/30% for +25%
Obama 55/40% for +15%
Pence 40/37% for +3%
The Democratic Party 43/47% for -4%
Trump 40/54% for -14%
The Republican Party 36/53% for -17%

Trump fav/unfav by household income:
under $50k: 36/58% for -22%
$50-100k: 48/48% for +/-0
over $100k: 39/60% for -21%

6% of Clinton voters have a favorable opinion of Trump.  7% of Trump voters have an unfavorable opinion of Trump.
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« Reply #233 on: January 18, 2017, 10:42:18 AM »

Things are going to get ugly unless Trump does something fast
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« Reply #234 on: January 18, 2017, 11:44:17 AM »

North Carolina (PPP): -5 (44/49)
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« Reply #235 on: January 18, 2017, 11:48:30 AM »

Rasmussen released their final Obama approval numbers today: 62-38 approve.

They will start polling Trump from today on and release the first Trump approval ratings on Friday, based on a 3-day tracker.
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« Reply #236 on: January 18, 2017, 12:07:18 PM »


A bit worse than I imagined, honestly, but not terrible compared to some states
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« Reply #237 on: January 18, 2017, 02:23:16 PM »

Things are going to get ugly unless Trump does something fast

He's shown that he doesn't care and will antagonize anyone who doesn't agree with him. He might succeed in uniting the country against him.
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« Reply #238 on: January 18, 2017, 02:43:17 PM »

Here's the first poll of a state that in fact voted for Donald Trump (if not by much) -- North Carolina. PPP, as if you are surprised.

January 13-16, 2017
Survey of 953 North Carolina voters

North Carolina Survey Results

Q1
Do you approve or disapprove of President
Barack Obama's job performance?

 50% Approve
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 47% Disapprove
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  4% Not sure
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Q2
Do you have a favorable or unfavorable opinion
of Donald Trump?

 44% Favorable
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 49% Unfavorable
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  6%  Not sure
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In other polling news... North Carolinians do not expect Donald Trump to be as good a President as Barack Obama; they trust the intelligence services more than they trust Donald Trump; and they don't look sympathetically upon Russian President Vladimir Putin. They want the Affordable Care Act reformed and strengthened -- not scrapped.

(If you are wondering about Q -- it's polling New York City this week, so any results for the Big Apple will be interesting -- if irrelevant).


Red is for a Democratic advantage, and blue is for a Republican advantage.


Favorability:



Probably our best approximation until about March.


Approval:



Not likely useful until March.


Even -- white



Blue, positive and 40-43%  20% saturation
............................ 44-47%  40%  
............................ 48-50%  50%
............................ 51-55%  70%
............................ 56%+     90%

Red, negative and  48-50%  20% (raw approval or favorability)
..........................  44-47%  30%
..........................  40-43%  50%
..........................  35-39%  70%
.......................under  35%  90%

Colors chosen for partisan affiliation.  

http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/2015/PPP_Release_NC_11817.pdf
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« Reply #239 on: January 18, 2017, 04:10:07 PM »

Aren't these the same polls that showed Trump losing?  As far as how people think he'll do it's 48/48.  Democrats can spin it however they want.  Remember polls are fake news.  Nice little work though!
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« Reply #240 on: January 18, 2017, 04:15:43 PM »

Aren't these the same polls that showed Trump losing?  As far as how people think he'll do it's 48/48.  Democrats can spin it however they want.  Remember polls are fake news.  Nice little work though!

"I don't like what I'm seeing = fake news."
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« Reply #241 on: January 18, 2017, 05:24:28 PM »

Aren't these the same polls that showed Trump losing?  As far as how people think he'll do it's 48/48.  Democrats can spin it however they want.  Remember polls are fake news.  Nice little work though!

These are the same polls that showed Trump losing the popular vote, yes. Polling error in 2016 was pretty much in line with other years. Some systemic error in Midwest, but otherwise, pretty standard year.
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« Reply #242 on: January 18, 2017, 07:22:00 PM »

Aren't these the same polls that showed Trump losing?  As far as how people think he'll do it's 48/48.  Democrats can spin it however they want.  Remember polls are fake news.  Nice little work though!

National polling was better in 2016 than 2012.
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« Reply #243 on: January 18, 2017, 11:55:48 PM »

Aren't these the same polls that showed Trump losing?  As far as how people think he'll do it's 48/48.  Democrats can spin it however they want.  Remember polls are fake news.  Nice little work though!

Sure. Polls go obsolete quickly in a dynamic reality. They can also fail to recognize the effectiveness of voter suppression, as in Wisconsin. News that fails to tell the full story is not fake news unless it has a deliberate intent to deceive. Polls measure something and are only estimates of reality.

No conventional wisdom can tell us how well Donald Trump will do as president based upon whether people like him early. Some things, like asparagus and classical music, are acquired tastes. So it could theoretically be with Trump economics -- that the social order that can enforce great sacrifices by people other than elites can lead to incredible gains in productivity that will make the suffering all worthwhile.

Approvals for the transition are awful. This is a chaotic transition, offering to many indications of a chaotic administration that will call for drastic changes that cannot be implemented. Nowhere do people like chaos in governmental administration or foreign policy. 

Donald Trump will work miracles or he will lose the faith of multitudes who voted for him. He had enthusiasm on his side, but that can wear off rapidly if the results are awful. Some expect it all to work well, with America unleashing the phenomenal growth (if with horrible conditions of life by current standards) of the Gilded Age. I look at the personality and see someone that I would not want as a boss. I see someone who has no idea of how to govern without resorting to despotic command unsuited to the American people. I see someone more likely to inspire mass contempt than to convince people to make great sacrifices of political qualities and agendas that they have long cherished.
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« Reply #244 on: January 19, 2017, 08:54:50 AM »

CBS/NYT national poll, conducted Jan. 13-16:

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/more-americans-disapprove-than-approve-trumps-handling-of-transition/

Trump: 32% favorable, 42% unfavorable
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« Reply #245 on: January 19, 2017, 04:11:21 PM »


Watch out François Hollande, your polling record may have some stiff competition soon.
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« Reply #246 on: January 19, 2017, 07:20:54 PM »


Watch out François Hollande, your polling record may have some stiff competition soon.

A quarter of the country will approve of him no matter what, as was the case with Dubya/Nixon/Truman etc. Remember also that Hollande only had the support of about a quarter in the first round of the 2012 election.
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« Reply #247 on: January 19, 2017, 09:03:31 PM »

Fox came out with their poll today, can't find a link yet, but Trump'a approval is only at 37%z
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« Reply #248 on: January 19, 2017, 09:58:27 PM »

Fox came out with their poll today, can't find a link yet, but Trump'a approval is only at 37%z

Instant. Buyer's. Remorse.
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« Reply #249 on: January 19, 2017, 10:23:15 PM »

Rasmussen national poll:

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Trump: 52% favorable, 48% unfavorable
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