The Official Trump 1.0 Approval Ratings Thread

[The_Doctor]

But he's God Emperor!

[The_Doctor]

There's a long history of supporting GOP presidential candidates and GOP candidates without necessarily supporting their policies. Americans are weirdly schizophrenic like that. But the gap also means the Democrats remain competitive, and win votes based on that.

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It really has to be said that there is no precedent for an incoming president to improve all that much after their "honeymoon" period. Trump is getting good press and benefit of the doubt right now, there are no major crises and the GOP is united.

In other words... he's got everything going for him I can think of and he's still underwater.

This might be the single most delusional, dumbest thing I've ever read on this site, ever.

Ever.

Trump could be getting good press and the benefit of the doubt if he were handling the transition competently, but he's not. He's pissed away any goodwill acquired from his victory with his response to the CIA fiasco and his choice of cabinet picks, not to mention his continued twitter usage. All preventable damage.

Crap. All crap. 'Handling the transition competently' is an opinion. I'm sure the +95% of the media which endorsed Hillary have their opinion of things, but they completely lack any ability to see outside their bubble.

It doesn't matter what Trump does, the media will try to take him out every step of the way. Just because you have your biases doesn't mean you have to be a shill and hack.

Just admit it. The media is a liberal propaganda arm of the democratic party. They are not 'non-political' and they are not interested in the truth. Stop pretending otherwise.

'Fake News'
'Alt-right'
'Russian hackers'
'Rigged machines'

Fake narratives created by the media to de-legitimize Trump.

My god, if Obama got same kind of press that conservatives get, his approvals would be in the 20's

Looking forward to being one of the 30% at the end who approves?

[The_Doctor]

NBC/WSJ national poll, conducted Dec. 12-15:

https://www.scribd.com/document/334645321/161300-NBCWSJ-December-Poll-Final

fav/unfav %:
Obama 52/36% for +16%
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Trump 40/46% for -6%

For our blue God-Emperor worshiping avatars: tell me some more about how Trump is going to be the greatest, most fantastic, amazing President ever in our lifetimes who will revolutionize the map.

[The_Doctor]

Those aren't bad numbers for Trump.

Read carefully what I said about him being a revolutionary realigning president, as half of you people are alleging he is.

[The_Doctor]

Those aren't bad numbers for Trump. 45% of the country will always disapprove of any Republican, no matter what.

So no earth shattering God-Emperor changing our country and turning it into a utopia of alt-rightists rounding up the liberals?

OK, then. I'm kind of confused on the blue avatar party line. Someone pass me the fresh talking points from them?

[The_Doctor]

Mike Pence? At some point (erratic or criminal, as in "war crimes" behavior, or blatantly un-Constitutional), and we might see the Joint Chiefs of Staff take action for cause. If Mike Pence is complicit, then the process that takes our Donald Trump also takes out Mike Pence.

Only one of these states (Virginia) is a legitimate swing state. 39% favorability does not reliably translate into approval... but don't count on him getting anything much above 45%, which is just about what he got. This is a very flawed President by historical standards, and he is already doing very unpopular things.

Don't fool yourself: a military coup would be nasty. Think of Pinochet overthrowing Allende in Chile. That nasty. 

I meant Pence convincing half of Cabinet to declare Trump unfit. I doubt (and hope) the Joint Chiefs don't take action. I can't imagine Mattis or Kelly would like kindly on any Trump craziness (and apparently they are very tight wth Dunford) so they may go along with Pence in such a case

I hadn't considered the 25th Amendment as a scenario. Damn you, for not bringing up earlier. (For the timeline)

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If the God Emperor is starting with these numbers I can't wait for the ending numbers.

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How could devout Christians fall for a Presidential nominee just slightly more moral than Dracula?

Maybe they weren't so "devout Christians" in the first place?

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There aren't enough whites to re-elect Trump/Pence by themselves. There are too many liberal and Democratic white voters who find Trump and Pence terrible and won't be voting for them anytime soon.

[The_Doctor]

Guys, I think we are reacting too quickly. The Trump Cult has been boxed in to support their man. That probably has him with a floor of 40% until their misgivings break the dam and he flounders. But for a while, he will probably stay at 40-45% for approval ratings.

Rasmussen is on some serious weed, though. But in general his approval ratings are all over the place. There's no convergence per se, yet, so it's early to say.

[The_Doctor]

"You guys NEVER stop thinking about elections" - Regular poster on American election webforum

I don't like how people always are in before I have a chance to say something witty along these lines. Damn you!

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Looks like Governor Fatass is finished politically unless Trump saves him.

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pbrower2a, a programming question. At some point, why don't you make a Trump Approval Rating 2.0 Approval rating and just edit your map whenever a new state poll comes out?

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So, most people who disapprove of Trump already want to impeach him?  That's insane.

That's a... pretty big jump.

President Pence seems more and more likely every day.

25th or straight up impeachment? I do think when impeachment nears 45% the GOP will start fleeing. But I don't anticipate impeachment or 25th until past the 2018 midterms because the GOP is far more vulnerable in 2020 in the Senate.  

[The_Doctor]

Morning Consult national poll on Trump job approval, conducted Feb. 2-4:

http://www.politico.com/f/?id=0000015a-1b58-d712-adda-bf78cc9d0001
http://www.politico.com/f/?id=0000015a-1b5a-d7b6-a15e-5b5fe03e0001

approve 47%
disapprove 46%

Trump job approval margin by region:
Midwest: +7
Northeast: -8
South: +6
West: -2

Trump job approval margin by race:
whites: +12
blacks: -53
Hispanics: -13

Trump job approval margin by income:
under $50k: 0
$50-100k: +5
over $100k: -1

This sounds about right.

[The_Doctor]

The approvals are basically the conned staying with the con artist until something jars them. I doubt people who voted for him want to own up just yet. It'll take more than a few tweets and it will take some stupid unnecessary economic issues for people to grasp Trump was a bad idea.  So in context these polls make sense. 

[The_Doctor]

I'm not bothered by this. Approvals are mid-40s to low 50s depending on the polls, which were all off for two years with him, and he always polls bad anyways. Unless his name is on the ballot.

Again, reading this forum gives false predictors. Going by the posts on this forum, 2014 was going to be a decent year for Dems, Jack Conway was going to be Gov of KY, and 2016 was going to be a DEM landslide. Why believe you now?

Because despite your braggadocio, the Republican Party isn't always going to be top dog? And you'll probably run away when the times get bad for the GOP? But yeah, the GOP isn't always going to be on top.

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Obama wasn't Eisenhower. Bill Clinton was that in the 1990s. He even called himself an Eisenhower Republican. The Obama Administration reminds me of a Nixon White House minus the impeachment in terms of political coalitions and moments of time.

Still fellating Bill Clinton, I see...

Um what?

I didn't vote for his wife, and I would've voted Bush and Dole. I don't think he was an impressive president. He mainly maintained the Reagan paradigm. Ike upheld the Roosevelt paradigm.

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How accurate was Pew? I know they nailed 2012.

Edit: They had Clinton +6, but they left the field 10/25. They were middle of the pack on the Clinton polling around that time frame, so I would consider this credible. They're usually top notch.

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Better question - is he down by single digits or double?

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Real Clear Politics Average: 44.6% approve, 50.3% disapprove/think he's unhinged, -5.7% rating. This includes the abominable Rasmussen poll, btw, so it's one of the more favorable ratings averages for him.

[The_Doctor]

So, second poll agreeing with Pew. I wonder what the others will look like.

[The_Doctor]

So, second poll agreeing with Pew. I wonder what the others will look like.

What was the other under 40? Pew, Gallup... and?

No I mean this poll confirms Pew. I wanted to see if other polls confirmed this, if so Trump could be in political trouble.

[The_Doctor]

So, second poll agreeing with Pew. I wonder what the others will look like.

What was the other under 40? Pew, Gallup... and?

No I mean this poll confirms Pew. I wanted to see if other polls confirmed this, if so Trump could be in political trouble.

He already is. If these numbers are true, he's probably only break even in states like Indiana and Missouri, which would significantly help McCaskill and Donnelly.

More to the point he needs better ratings for his legislative agenda. The Congressional Republicans may conclude that they may not benefit from working with Trump if his ratings crash further. Its amazing they don't realize how problematic the man is.