The Official Trump 1.0 Approval Ratings Thread

[Phony Moderate]

Remember that Bill Clinton's favorables were in the water during Lewinsky but his approvals (different thing) were sky high.

Though it's perfectly possible that Trump could have even worse approvals than favorables.

[Phony Moderate]

Apparently that means American voters want liberal policies to stay...LOL Trump.

Hence Trump was elected.

[Phony Moderate]

Nov 29th YouGov favorablity rating:

Unfavorable - 54%
Favorable - 40%
DK - 6%

https://d25d2506sfb94s.cloudfront.net/cumulus_uploads/document/9ufc2hsirx/tabs_OP_Recount_20161130.pdf

They have….

Trump 40/54% for -14%
Clinton 39/55% for -16%
Jill Stein 19/43% for -24%

Compared to their last poll (taken right after the election), Clinton’s popularity is down.  Trump is down too, albeit just slightly (-14, as compared to the previous -12).

Trump favorability margin by region:
Midwest: -14
Northeast: -10
South: -8
West: -25

Trump favorability margin by race:
whites: +8
blacks: -75
Hispanics: -33

Trump favorability margin by income:
under $50k: -16
$50-100k: -6
over $100k: -14

26% of Americans are out of their minds. Sad to see that Hillary number so high on the belief it was rigged. But lol at the 12% of Trump people thinking it was rigged. Must have been those 3 million illegals that voted .

He is still pretty far underwater...

But we know from the election results that many of those who dislike him are willing to vote for him.

[Phony Moderate]

NBC/WSJ national poll, conducted Dec. 12-15:

https://www.scribd.com/document/334645321/161300-NBCWSJ-December-Poll-Final

fav/unfav %:
Obama 52/36% for +16%
................
Trump 40/46% for -6%

For our blue God-Emperor worshiping avatars: tell me some more about how Trump is going to be the greatest, most fantastic, amazing President ever in our lifetimes who will revolutionize the map.

Well he won w/ far worse net favorables than he has now tbf.

[Phony Moderate]

Stop taking the piss, guys.

[Phony Moderate]

CBS/NYT national poll, conducted Jan. 13-16:

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/more-americans-disapprove-than-approve-trumps-handling-of-transition/

Trump: 32% favorable, 42% unfavorable

Watch out François Hollande, your polling record may have some stiff competition soon.

A quarter of the country will approve of him no matter what, as was the case with Dubya/Nixon/Truman etc. Remember also that Hollande only had the support of about a quarter in the first round of the 2012 election.

[Phony Moderate]

As if no one would be undecided three days into a presidency; Gallup in fact has it even at 45/45.

http://pollingreport.com/djt_job1.htm

[Phony Moderate]

Says it all really.

Even if you support him, can we all simply acknowledge that Trump is unpopular and it's not surprising?

He became president despite losing the popular vote by a greater amount than anyone whose managed entering the Oval Office. He ran a campaign that was proudly divisive against "anyone who isn't us". He was chronically vulgar, insulting, and obnoxious in a manner greater than literally every other major party candidate in history combined--supporters considered it "telling it like it is". Whatsmore, we can all agree that his REPEATED statements about pussygrabbing, women "being dangerous by working out of the home", liking to intrude on beauty show dressing rooms, etc.  etc. etc., proved even to his supporters that, although they preferred him to Clinton, he's still fundamentally a scumbag personally.

Most importantly, he has not said one thing or taken a single action since being elected to change that course and actually unify the country. His supporters saying that candidate Trump would develop gravitas and his non-ideological nature to build bridges have bupkis to show for that theory, and it ain't about to happen.

The only people trying to claim he's not unpopular are those that always supported him.

Yes, although the general breakdown in trust in politicians plays a role too - notice how three of the bottom four happen to be the three of the most recent presidents. Someone as unpleasant as Nixon only had 5% disapproving of him on taking office for example.

[Phony Moderate]

It's depressing that Trump can at least point to some polls showing him with a positive rating while Paul Keating cannot.

Also, check out this out for historical knowledge (or lack thereof) on the part of the public (from Quinny):

Best president of past 70 years:

30 percent name Ronald Reagan;
29 percent name Barack Obama;
12 percent pick John Kennedy;
9 percent select Bill Clinton;
3 percent each for Dwight Eisenhower and George W. Bush;
2 percent each for Harry Truman, Lyndon Johnson, Jimmy Carter and George H.W. Bush;

Worst president of past 70 years:
24 percent for Richard Nixon;
23 percent for Barack Obama;
22 percent for George W. Bush;
10 percent for Jimmy Carter;
5 percent for Ronald Reagan;
4 percent for Bill Clinton;
3 percent for Lyndon Johnson;
2 percent for George H.W. Bush;
1 percent for Gerald Ford;
Less than 1 percent for Harry Truman, Dwight Eisenhower and John Kennedy.

[Phony Moderate]

Guys, I think we are reacting too quickly. The Trump Cult has been boxed in to support their man. That probably has him with a floor of 40% until their misgivings break the dam and he flounders. But for a while, he will probably stay at 40-45% for approval ratings.

Rasmussen is on some serious weed, though. But in general his approval ratings are all over the place. There's no convergence per se, yet, so it's early to say.

It's not his core Trump has to worry about. It's the more moderate 5-10% of voters who moved to Trump at the last minute.

Yeah, his cultists are actually a very small portion of the electorate. More like the 30% that he had during Pussygate.

80-90 million people seems a bit too high for the word 'cult' to apply.

[Phony Moderate]

There's a limit to how far he can fall without Republicans souring on him, and we are probably close to that floor at 38%. I would expect him to hover around 37-42/54-58 territory until he begins bleeding support from his own party. Either way, those are terrible numbers to try and muster support for his administrative agenda.

Once he begins clashing with Congressional Republicans on policy and continues to accumulate scandals and defeats as his term progresses, Republican's will no longer provide him with unanimous support. Losing just 15-25% of his current favorability among Republicans could crater his job approval into the low 30s easily. It will be difficult to reduce it to below 30 and unlikely to occur before the midterms, although I wouldn't be surprised if he consistently registers in the 20s by his last year if his tenure unravels into an absolute free-fall over the years.

Still, anything below 40 percent approval virtually guarantees substantial losses for Republicans in the mid-term, and registering closer to 30 percent by late 2018 could result in a Democratic landslide. Either way, Republicans are stuck with him whether they like it or not.

They're not stuck with him, since Pence would be much better for their party AND the country (and foreign relations). They're just p***ies

Well, as long as you're not poor and/or LGBT. But then Pence is a nice guy, FF so maybe you're right.

[Phony Moderate]

Looks like Trump's negatives are just about synchronized across polling outfits now. What a mandate he has!

Well he did win the election.

Pfft, you know what I mean. An actual mandate is different than just winning. He lost the popular vote by 2%+ and barely squeaked by in FL, PA, WI and MI - states he needed to win.

In an election between two candidates as disliked as Clinton/Trump, just barely winning like Trump is far from a mandate of any kind.

Did Obama have a mandate for Obamacare?

http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/pollster/us-health-bill

But it still was a good and necessary thing, right?

Yes, he did. He won by seven points, and his party picked up nine seats in the Senate. As opposed to Trump, who lost by 2 points and whose party lost Senate seats

But would you make the same point if Hillary had won while losing by 2% and was now pushing a more radical healthcare plan than Obamacare? The only thing that matters is who gets to 270. If the voters of PA, MI, WI etc don't like what Trump is doing then they can vote him out in 2020. No where is it written down that a party/candidate has to meet a certain criteria in winning an election in order to pursue their agenda. Besides, Trump's plans can easily be intellectually hammered without the need to resort to tedious lines about whether or not he has a mandate.

[Phony Moderate]

Please someone explain to me how a President who has approvals between 35% and 43% can effectively govern when his own party can't even pass his legislation?

Seems to me we have a lame duck President here.

And this is at the beginning of his term with a good economy. If there is any economic downturn, that high disapproval rate will solidify and tumble more.

Probably, but not neccessarily. One of the problems from Trump's POV at the moment is that things are too quiet. He comes off as someone who thrives when things are in the sh**tter; maybe he could use such a situation to his advantage.