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« Reply #25 on: November 18, 2016, 08:16:08 PM »

Sessions is a bullhorn to the alt-right that Trump prioritizes their support.
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« Reply #26 on: November 18, 2016, 09:03:18 PM »

It definitely seems that race is replacing religion as the driving force of social conservatism.
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« Reply #27 on: November 18, 2016, 09:14:15 PM »

It definitely seems that race is replacing religion as the driving force of social conservatism.

Well, their pretense of being religious is getting pretty threadbare with Trump.
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« Reply #28 on: November 18, 2016, 09:32:30 PM »

The evangelical vote for Trump laid bare the lie that they were committed to a higher truth. In the end, they were committed only to their own self-interest. Sounds like Pharisees, but that's not a new story either.
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« Reply #29 on: November 18, 2016, 11:41:51 PM »

So you're OK with a racist as Attorney General of the United States? Or a president-elect of the United States who's first headline in the NYT was being sued by the DOJ in 1973 over housing discrimination?

Just curious.

It would be nice if you considered the full record. Which includes, say:

Jeff Sessions voted to confirm Eric Holder. Jeff Sessions worked on school desegregation.

By the way, despite all the leftist claptrap, Arlen Specter (R then D) is on record saying he would have confirmed Jeff Sessions in hindsight. But why does Liz Warren's screeching matter, anyway?
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« Reply #30 on: November 18, 2016, 11:52:10 PM »

I see it causing more racial tension, as if there wasnt enough already.
Both sides have been causing racial tension. Period.

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Both sides play racial games. The Democrats play race games against white people and Republicans race bait against Latinos. Period.
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« Reply #31 on: November 18, 2016, 11:59:40 PM »

I see it causing more racial tension, as if there wasnt enough already.
Both sides have been causing racial tension. Period.

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Both sides play racial games. The Democrats play race games against white people and Republicans race bait against Latinos. Period.

If white people can dish it out as much as we have for the past several centuries then we should sure as hell be able to take it. I say that as a white person. Period.
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« Reply #32 on: November 19, 2016, 12:09:14 AM »

We've come a long way since saying "Strom Thurmond was right!" could end your senate career....
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« Reply #33 on: November 19, 2016, 12:23:29 AM »

So you're OK with a racist as Attorney General of the United States? Or a president-elect of the United States who's first headline in the NYT was being sued by the DOJ in 1973 over housing discrimination?

Just curious.

They're Republicans. They've been okay with racism for decades, at a minimum.

Pretty much this. The only racism they acknowledge is when minorities or those who support Social Justice call out the historic and systemic racism of White America. Calling attorneys "boy," joking about the KKK being good aside from smoking pot, calling civil rights un-American, and telling a White lawyer defending a minority's civil rights he's a "race traitor" is not racism. It's just something the Communist inspired left-wing ACLU and Social Justice Warriors whine about. This is America, damn it! White Power!
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« Reply #34 on: November 19, 2016, 12:34:51 AM »

So you're OK with a racist as Attorney General of the United States? Or a president-elect of the United States who's first headline in the NYT was being sued by the DOJ in 1973 over housing discrimination?

Just curious.

They're Republicans. They've been okay with racism for decades, at a minimum.

Pretty much this. The only racism they acknowledge is when minorities or those who support Social Justice call out the historic and systemic racism of White America. Calling attorneys "boy," joking about the KKK being good aside from smoking pot, calling civil rights un-American, and telling a White lawyer defending a minority's civil rights he's a "race traitor" is not racism. It's just something the Communist inspired left-wing ACLU and Social Justice Warriors whine about. This is America, damn it! White Power!

The abortion industry is the only significant group of racists left in this country.  That is not to say that there aren't a few bad apples out there, but organized racism has been dead for a while outside the walls of Planned Parenthood, which makes its living off killing black babies.
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« Reply #35 on: November 19, 2016, 12:44:00 AM »

So you're OK with a racist as Attorney General of the United States? Or a president-elect of the United States who's first headline in the NYT was being sued by the DOJ in 1973 over housing discrimination?

Just curious.

They're Republicans. They've been okay with racism for decades, at a minimum.

Pretty much this. The only racism they acknowledge is when minorities or those who support Social Justice call out the historic and systemic racism of White America. Calling attorneys "boy," joking about the KKK being good aside from smoking pot, calling civil rights un-American, and telling a White lawyer defending a minority's civil rights he's a "race traitor" is not racism. It's just something the Communist inspired left-wing ACLU and Social Justice Warriors whine about. This is America, damn it! White Power!

The abortion industry is the only significant group of racists left in this country.  That is not to say that there aren't a few bad apples out there, but organized racism has been dead for a while outside the walls of Planned Parenthood, which makes its living off killing black babies.

Oh, here we go. Had to toss in abortion at some point, huh?  Planned Parenthood isn't racist, nor are abortion doctors or the "abortion industry." If anything, the problem is of class and the disproportionate number of African Americans living below the poverty line, which is a consequence of systemic racism, such as the historic disadvantages faced by African Americans thanks to Jim Crow and slavery, not to mention the underfunded and outright neglected schools in African American communities. Poverty leads to lack of access to proper contraception that is more readily available to the middle and upper classes (disproportionately White). So if you really care about "saving the fetuses babies," you'd be demanding the end to poverty and supporting universal access to health care, affordable contraceptives, and early sex education. But something tells me you'd rather preach to people about "personal responsibility."
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« Reply #36 on: November 19, 2016, 02:42:50 AM »

Sessions is an unreconstructed Dixiecrat and a massive HP but he might be less bad than Giuliani.

No need to compare the two; Giuliani is going to be SoS.
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« Reply #37 on: November 19, 2016, 02:52:51 AM »

So you're OK with a racist as Attorney General of the United States? Or a president-elect of the United States who's first headline in the NYT was being sued by the DOJ in 1973 over housing discrimination?

Just curious.

They're Republicans. They've been okay with racism for decades, at a minimum.

Pretty much this. The only racism they acknowledge is when minorities or those who support Social Justice call out the historic and systemic racism of White America. Calling attorneys "boy," joking about the KKK being good aside from smoking pot, calling civil rights un-American, and telling a White lawyer defending a minority's civil rights he's a "race traitor" is not racism. It's just something the Communist inspired left-wing ACLU and Social Justice Warriors whine about. This is America, damn it! White Power!

The abortion industry is the only significant group of racists left in this country.  That is not to say that there aren't a few bad apples out there, but organized racism has been dead for a while outside the walls of Planned Parenthood, which makes its living off killing black babies.

Oh, here we go. Had to toss in abortion at some point, huh?  Planned Parenthood isn't racist, nor are abortion doctors or the "abortion industry." If anything, the problem is of class and the disproportionate number of African Americans living below the poverty line, which is a consequence of systemic racism, such as the historic disadvantages faced by African Americans thanks to Jim Crow and slavery, not to mention the underfunded and outright neglected schools in African American communities. Poverty leads to lack of access to proper contraception that is more readily available to the middle and upper classes (disproportionately White). So if you really care about "saving the fetuses babies," you'd be demanding the end to poverty and supporting universal access to health care, affordable contraceptives, and early sex education. But something tells me you'd rather preach to people about "personal responsibility."

There's extensive work that's been done in sociology of the family indicating that the issue may not be lack of access to contraception but lack of access to social and economic resources once somebody is (generally by choice or through genuine indifference) pregnant.
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« Reply #38 on: November 19, 2016, 04:01:11 AM »

So you're OK with a racist as Attorney General of the United States? Or a president-elect of the United States who's first headline in the NYT was being sued by the DOJ in 1973 over housing discrimination?

Just curious.

They're Republicans. They've been okay with racism for decades, at a minimum.

Pretty much this. The only racism they acknowledge is when minorities or those who support Social Justice call out the historic and systemic racism of White America. Calling attorneys "boy," joking about the KKK being good aside from smoking pot, calling civil rights un-American, and telling a White lawyer defending a minority's civil rights he's a "race traitor" is not racism. It's just something the Communist inspired left-wing ACLU and Social Justice Warriors whine about. This is America, damn it! White Power!

The abortion industry is the only significant group of racists left in this country.  That is not to say that there aren't a few bad apples out there, but organized racism has been dead for a while outside the walls of Planned Parenthood, which makes its living off killing black babies.

Oh, here we go. Had to toss in abortion at some point, huh?  Planned Parenthood isn't racist, nor are abortion doctors or the "abortion industry." If anything, the problem is of class and the disproportionate number of African Americans living below the poverty line, which is a consequence of systemic racism, such as the historic disadvantages faced by African Americans thanks to Jim Crow and slavery, not to mention the underfunded and outright neglected schools in African American communities. Poverty leads to lack of access to proper contraception that is more readily available to the middle and upper classes (disproportionately White). So if you really care about "saving the fetuses babies," you'd be demanding the end to poverty and supporting universal access to health care, affordable contraceptives, and early sex education. But something tells me you'd rather preach to people about "personal responsibility."

There's extensive work that's been done in sociology of the family indicating that the issue may not be lack of access to contraception but lack of access to social and economic resources once somebody is (generally by choice or through genuine indifference) pregnant.

Good point. As I said, the core pronlem is wealth inequality and poverty, not some absurd racism on the part of the "abortion industry." How ignorantly partisan must one be to honestly believe that nonsense?
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« Reply #39 on: November 19, 2016, 09:41:00 AM »

Yes, Jeff Sessions is a horrible person and a bigot. The only fitting enough role would have been Treasury. AG is horrible for him, because it enables his disgusting side to come out.

Yes, abortion is about population control, most notably African Americans. It has always been that way. Planned Parenthood has always been that way.

Both of these things are heavily documented and well known.
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« Reply #40 on: November 19, 2016, 09:53:58 AM »

There are so many decent and, maybe even, great Republicans out there, and Trump chooses among the worst for his cabinet position. It's no surprise people are appalled.
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« Reply #41 on: November 19, 2016, 10:30:18 AM »

Donald Trump has appointed a white supremacist and anti-Semite as his chief strategist, and now the biggest racist in the United States Senate as his AG. What's next, David Duke for Secretary of Homeland Security?
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« Reply #42 on: November 19, 2016, 10:51:07 AM »

His record.
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« Reply #43 on: November 19, 2016, 11:07:58 AM »

Donald Trump has appointed a white supremacist and anti-Semite as his chief strategist, and now the biggest racist in the United States Senate as his AG. What's next, David Duke for Secretary of Homeland Security?

There is literally no evidence that Bannon is a "white supremacist".
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« Reply #44 on: November 19, 2016, 11:26:06 AM »
« Edited: November 19, 2016, 11:31:05 AM by Truman Democrat »

Donald Trump has appointed a white supremacist and anti-Semite as his chief strategist, and now the biggest racist in the United States Senate as his AG. What's next, David Duke for Secretary of Homeland Security?

There is literally no evidence that Bannon is a "white supremacist".

Like there is no evidence Trump hasn't done racist things… oh wait. I just love how Bannon's fellow white nationalists defend him in the media.  Smiley

Almost every Trump voter I have spoken to personally has started griping about the blacks and the Latinos in this country. It's almost like a universal trait.
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« Reply #45 on: November 19, 2016, 11:40:37 AM »

Not wanting your kids to go to a school because there are too many Jews there sounds white supremacist to me. And before anyone says "but but but Jews are white", it's important for me to note that white supremacists do not see Jews as white, but as some sort of threat to whites.
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« Reply #46 on: November 19, 2016, 06:43:26 PM »

West Virginia Sen. Joe Manchin (D) said that he will support Sessions for Attorney General. Manchin may not be lockstep with everything that Democrats do, but he is independent minded. I like that. He's the only thing going for the West Virginia Democratic Party these days, along with Jim Justice.

He is a moderate Democrat, exactly what West Virginia needs, and maybe an Independent mind for what America may need down the line.

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/11/jeff-sessions-attorney-general-confirmation-231602
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« Reply #47 on: November 19, 2016, 07:31:42 PM »

So you're OK with a racist as Attorney General of the United States? Or a president-elect of the United States who's first headline in the NYT was being sued by the DOJ in 1973 over housing discrimination?

Just curious.

It would be nice if you considered the full record. Which includes, say:

Jeff Sessions voted to confirm Eric Holder. Jeff Sessions worked on school desegregation.

By the way, despite all the leftist claptrap, Arlen Specter (R then D) is on record saying he would have confirmed Jeff Sessions in hindsight. But why does Liz Warren's screeching matter, anyway?


Who says I'm listening to her screeching? I listened to the campaign, which was comprised of Donald Trump's foghorn blasting out racist things like that Judge Curiel couldn't judge fairly because he's Mexican ... seems reasonable to me that Donald Trump would appoint an AG who would reflect his own biases.

As for school desegregation, the same guy who threw the folders on the table and said he wished he could reject all civil rights cases?

Please, let's not pretend Jeff Sessions is some paragon of civil rights virtues. And let's not pretend Donald Trump is one either, and that the alt-right doesn't have overtones of racism and semitism. According to Steve Bannon himself.

The Republican Party has been basically hijacked by nationalists who have - at best - a skeptical history on civil rights. There have been polling done on Trump voters who indicate more negative opinions of blacks than other groups for example. Why would the elevation of a dixiecrat to Attorney General be any different?

Specter - why do I care about Arlen Specter's opinion? He was a Republican for most of his career and switched parties to protect his own hide, not because he had a deathbed conversion.

Also Holder's confirmation was never in dispute. He passed 75-21. Don't make this to be some great noble act of Jeff Sessions that indicate how non-racist he is.
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« Reply #48 on: November 19, 2016, 09:00:06 PM »

Sessions is just a buffoon on race issues. I don't think the guy is racist though.
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« Reply #49 on: November 19, 2016, 09:03:01 PM »

Donald Trump has appointed a white supremacist and anti-Semite as his chief strategist, and now the biggest racist in the United States Senate as his AG. What's next, David Duke for Secretary of Homeland Security?
Steve Bannon is not an anti-Semite since it was David Horowitz that said Bill Kristol was a "renegade jew".
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