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« on: November 22, 2016, 08:02:31 PM »

Given the dearth of the Democratic bench in the South, this trend seems likely to continue in 2020, provided the GOP renominates Trump. The last time there were four straight elections without a southern nominee was 1948-60. At that time, the South was still recovering from its post-Civil War marginalized status.

Why has the nation's largest region done such a poor job of producing major party nominees in the past decade?
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« Reply #1 on: November 22, 2016, 09:08:30 PM »

Given the dearth of the Democratic bench in the South, this trend seems likely to continue in 2020, provided the GOP renominates Trump. The last time there were four straight elections without a southern nominee was 1948-60. At that time, the South was still recovering from its post-Civil War marginalized status.

Why has the nation's largest region done such a poor job of producing major party nominees in the past decade?
Are you counting running mates?
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« Reply #2 on: November 22, 2016, 10:04:46 PM »

Given the dearth of the Democratic bench in the South, this trend seems likely to continue in 2020, provided the GOP renominates Trump. The last time there were four straight elections without a southern nominee was 1948-60. At that time, the South was still recovering from its post-Civil War marginalized status.

Why has the nation's largest region done such a poor job of producing major party nominees in the past decade?
Are you counting running mates?

Tim Kaine. (I don't think Joe Biden counts, does he?)
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« Reply #3 on: November 22, 2016, 10:15:57 PM »

Given the dearth of the Democratic bench in the South, this trend seems likely to continue in 2020, provided the GOP renominates Trump. The last time there were four straight elections without a southern nominee was 1948-60. At that time, the South was still recovering from its post-Civil War marginalized status.

Why has the nation's largest region done such a poor job of producing major party nominees in the past decade?
Are you counting running mates?

Tim Kaine. (I don't think Joe Biden counts, does he?)
Delaware doesn't count. Virginia does (unless it's districts 1, 8, 10, or 11, which Kaine is not from).
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« Reply #4 on: November 24, 2016, 01:15:30 AM »

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« Reply #5 on: November 25, 2016, 06:07:57 PM »

Given the dearth of the Democratic bench in the South, this trend seems likely to continue in 2020, provided the GOP renominates Trump. The last time there were four straight elections without a southern nominee was 1948-60. At that time, the South was still recovering from its post-Civil War marginalized status.

Why has the nation's largest region done such a poor job of producing major party nominees in the past decade?
Are you counting running mates?

If so, Sparkman in 1952 is from Alabama. If not, 1944 was also without a southern nominee.
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« Reply #6 on: November 25, 2016, 07:46:36 PM »

Given the dearth of the Democratic bench in the South, this trend seems likely to continue in 2020, provided the GOP renominates Trump. The last time there were four straight elections without a southern nominee was 1948-60. At that time, the South was still recovering from its post-Civil War marginalized status.

Why has the nation's largest region done such a poor job of producing major party nominees in the past decade?
Are you counting running mates?

If so, Sparkman in 1952 is from Alabama. If not, 1944 was also without a southern nominee.

Kaine?
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« Reply #7 on: November 25, 2016, 09:08:19 PM »
« Edited: November 25, 2016, 09:15:58 PM by Blue3 »

2004 isn't a long time.


And how long has it been since a major party nominated someone to be President

...from the Pacific Northwest?

...from California?

...from Florida?

...from Missouri?

...from Virginia?

...from Pennsylvania?

...from Minnesota?

...from Iowa?

...from New Hampshire?

...from the Rocky Mountains?



For all of those, I bet the answer is either "quite a while" (like Reagan for California, or Mondale from Minnesota) or "a very long time" (like Coolidge from New Hampshire, or whoever from Virginia) or "never."

The South has had more than its fair share of presidential nominees. 12 years without a nominee from there isn't surprising or unfair.
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« Reply #8 on: November 26, 2016, 05:17:19 PM »

Given the dearth of the Democratic bench in the South, this trend seems likely to continue in 2020, provided the GOP renominates Trump. The last time there were four straight elections without a southern nominee was 1948-60. At that time, the South was still recovering from its post-Civil War marginalized status.

Why has the nation's largest region done such a poor job of producing major party nominees in the past decade?

Well, the Democrats have been near wiped out at the statewide level in the South, which means they aren't going to produce any southern candidates capable of getting the nomination. Once you factor that into consideration, its just a question of why the GOP hasn't nominated anyone.
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« Reply #9 on: November 26, 2016, 05:38:17 PM »

Given the dearth of the Democratic bench in the South, this trend seems likely to continue in 2020, provided the GOP renominates Trump. The last time there were four straight elections without a southern nominee was 1948-60. At that time, the South was still recovering from its post-Civil War marginalized status.

Why has the nation's largest region done such a poor job of producing major party nominees in the past decade?
Are you counting running mates?

If so, Sparkman in 1952 is from Alabama. If not, 1944 was also without a southern nominee.

And Kefauver in 1956 was from Tennessee.
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« Reply #10 on: November 27, 2016, 07:07:15 PM »

Given the dearth of the Democratic bench in the South, this trend seems likely to continue in 2020, provided the GOP renominates Trump. The last time there were four straight elections without a southern nominee was 1948-60. At that time, the South was still recovering from its post-Civil War marginalized status.

Why has the nation's largest region done such a poor job of producing major party nominees in the past decade?

Well, the Democrats have been near wiped out at the statewide level in the South, which means they aren't going to produce any southern candidates capable of getting the nomination. Once you factor that into consideration, its just a question of why the GOP hasn't nominated anyone.

This. I'm guessing with a lot of up-and-coming Republicans in the south (Cruz, Haley, Rubio, etc) we'll see this trend broken in the foreseeable future.
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« Reply #11 on: November 27, 2016, 07:18:55 PM »

1868-1924, neither major party nominated a candidate who resided in an ex-Confederate state (Wilson was a Southerner, but he was elected from New Jersey).
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