Clinton electors lobbying for EC protest votes? *UPDATE* 29 electors want intel briefing

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Reminds me of a 1960 Oklahoma faithless elector

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_D._Irwin

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By the way, according to the wiki both Washington and Colorado have laws against faithless electors. I don't know details, though.

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I think we can all agree Electoral College is very unlikely to go.

1. Smaller states would strongly oppose the move.
2. Major swing states would oppose the move.
3. At the end of a day both parties probably prefeers to play in current setup (concentrate on swing state) than wage a difficult nationwide campaign.

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Anyway, there's always some speculation of such kind (remember Ron Paul's "ninja electors"), but I believe when I actually see something.

What needs to happen is that the Electors have to be obligated, by law, to vote for the winner of the state for which they are an Elector.

How about retaining the EC with abolishing electors? A winner is just getting assigned number of state electoral votes.

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The Electoral College does not have to be abolished, and it won't.

What needs to happen is that the Electors have to be obligated, by law, to vote for the winner of the state for which they are an Elector.

And a 19 year Elector?

Wanting to make a statement?

How stupid is that?

I like this post a lot. My only quibble is that we can't speak in total certainty about the future of our country, let alone the EC.

Thank you.

You are, of course, correct that we cannot say anything about the future with absolute certainty.

However, I think we can all agree that the abolition of the Electoral College would be a very long, drawn out, bitter affair.

And constitutionally, I believe I can say that more likely than not, at least in the immediate future, and by that I mean a considerable length of time, that any attempt to abolish the Electoral College is more likely to fail than to succeed.    

Yep. Thanks for the naunce.
It can get lonely sometimes defending the EC on the internet. You're welcome, fellow EC supporter.

Indeed, I am a firm supporter of the Electoral College.

It gives smaller states more say in the election.  

If the election for President was based completely on the popular vote, by far most of the attention from the parties and the candidates would be spent on the large states, California, Texas, New York, Florida, Pennsylvania, Illinois, Ohio, Michigan, Georgia, North Carolina, New Jersey.

The Electoral College system gives more influence to smaller states, and a better balance for Presidential elections.

I have a perfect electoral system for you!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/County_Unit_System

Just like you've described.

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Texas GOP elector will vote for Kasich over Trump.

Ugh, I can't stand this "Trump is awful but GWB was great" crap.

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The last time that there was more than one faithless elector in an election was technically 1912, but that was a unique circumstance since the Republican Vice Presidential candidate died before the election and after it was too late to remove him from the ballot....so the fact that Taft's electors didn't vote for him shouldn't really count IMO.

Yes, Butler was officially designated by the Republican Party to receive electoral votes Sherman would've received.

I'm not sure how to classify Alabama electors who voted for Byrd in 1960. While Mississippi was a clear case of elected "unpledged" slot, Kennedy did win the vote in Alabama.

There also was a Republican faithless elector from Oklahoma, who had actually tried to influence the election:

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I wonder what would happen in a very theoretical scenario in which Trump dies before the electors meet. On one hand you can't cast a valid vote for a dead candidate (like with Greeley). On the other hand, in some states, electors wouldn't be allowed to vote for someone else.

I suppose RNC would have to designate a replacement candidate to receive Trump's evs (likely Pence).

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Giving intel briefing to a bunch of private citizens?