Hypothetical: New England, Washington, and Oregon join Canada in 2021.

[Blue3]

Hypothetical:
* The states of Washington, Oregon, Maine, New Hampshire, Vermont, Massachusetts, Rhode Island, and Connecticut join Canada in 2021. (Let's say Trump's re-election is the final straw)
* Their secession from the United States is peaceful and legal, with approval of the U.S. Congress and the 8 states.
* Their joining with Canada is also peaceful and legal, with approval of the Canadian Parliament and the 8 states.


25 years pass, it's now 2046.

1. What has been the impact of this change on:
- the remaining 42 states in the USA
- the USA's culture
- the USA's domestic policies as a whole
- the USA's foreign policies and international standing as a whole?

2. What has been the impact of this change on:
- the other provinces of Canada
- Canada's culture
- Canada's domestic policies as a whole
- Canada's foreign policies and international standing as a whole?

3. What has been the impact of this change on the world as a whole?

[ag]

NY and California would go as well in that scenario

[Hilldog]

Hooray!

[JerryArkansas]

With the Whitest, most economically egalitarian states gone, the remaining US would be even poorer and Browner. It would just make more swift this nation's inevitable decline into being a third world country where the vast majority of people live in slums.

Conversely, the gigantic infusion of relatively rich people into Canada (their population would increase by about a third) would probably help Canada avoid America's fate for at least another 50 years.

Love your racist rant here.  Quoted so you won't delete it and get rid of it.

[True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)]

NY and California would go as well in that scenario

They might want to, but no way would Canada allow itself to be swallowed up by them, at least not until New England and American Columbia had been thoroly Canadianized. California alone has more people than Canada today, and New York added to New England and American Columbia would make Canadians a minority in their own country.

[Simfan34]

New England is pretty clearly the better deal-- with a population of 14.7 million, a GDP of $953.995 billion, and a (inferred) GDP per capita of $64,776, New England would boost Canada's economic profile without overwhelming the rest of the country, as opposed to the "Great Lakes-Mississippi basin", which would probably (I can't be bothered to do the sums) drag down its stats, and end up annexing Canada for all intents and purposes, rather than the other way around. To be precise:

Canada   New England   Combined   Change
Population   36,155,487   14,727,584   50,883,071   + 40.7%
GDP (2015)   $1,572.781 billion   $953.995 billion   $2,526.776 billion   + 60.7%
GDP per capita   $43,934.81   $64,776.07   $50,031.16   + 14.6%
Non-white pop. (%)   19.2%   22.3%   20.1%*   + 4.7%

*This figure is a pure guess, as I'm not willing to calculate the exact percentage when there's already barely a 3% difference, although NE would add more blacks and (obviously) Hispanics than are in the rest of Canada put together.

It's worth noting that, at $2.526 trillion, this hypothetical greater Canada would be the sixth largest economy in the world, between France and the UK, and, if Reuters is anything to go by, would now be larger than both, and thus the fifth largest economy, at present exchange rates, following the fall in the Euro and Pound post-UK referendum. Canada-- a great power! Of course, it wouldn't be, since Justin Trudeau can hardly be expected to use his nation's newfound wealth to fund rapid military expansion (and the necessary nuclear programme). So another Germany, another Japan: a major economy with a disproportionately weak military. Then again, his record so far indicates he's not much more likely to use to invest in an inter-city high-speed rail network, either, sadly...

[ag]

With the Whitest, most economically egalitarian states gone, the remaining US would be even poorer and Browner. It would just make more swift this nation's inevitable decline into being a third world country where the vast majority of people live in slums.

Conversely, the gigantic infusion of relatively rich people into Canada (their population would increase by about a third) would probably help Canada avoid America's fate for at least another 50 years.

Love your racist rant here.  Quoted so you won't delete it and get rid of it.

Why would anybody want to delete it? It is beautiful: you just need to understand it.

When towards the end of WWII an American journalist asked Erich Maria Remarque, whether he was nostalgic about the pre-Nazi Germany, he responded: "What makes you think I am Jewish?" Just strangely relevant.

[Bunwahaha [still dunno why, but well, so be it]]

3. What has been the impact of this change on the world as a whole?

Lots of flags to change, Canada higher in Olympic medals, thats about it, right?

[Boston Bread]

Some effects on Canada:

Bilingualism in Canada would be effectively untenable. Under 10% of the population would be Francophone. This would lead to Quebec losing its oversized influence in politics.

The states joining mostly have more vibrant economies than Canada, so the poorer parts of Canada (particularly the Atlantic and Aboriginal-majority areas) would receive a boost in equalization payments.

Canada's population would become slightly whiter, but not a big difference. The Black and Hispanic proportion would increase, while Asian and Native American proportion would decrease.

Canada would emerge as the world's biggest tech hub, focused on Seattle, Vancouver, and Toronto. Especially if trade becomes easier to do in Canada.

Canada would probably have to spend significantly more on its military since we might be expected to inherit some of the USA's military influence. We'd also have to worry if the USA wanted to take back those states in the future. Canada might even acquire nuclear weapons, depending on how unstable the US looked at this point.

[ag]

NY and California would go as well in that scenario

They might want to, but no way would Canada allow itself to be swallowed up by them, at least not until New England and American Columbia had been thoroly Canadianized. California alone has more people than Canada today, and New York added to New England and American Columbia would make Canadians a minority in their own country.

Well, in that case we should offer to take California (and New Mexico) back. We are big enough. I am sure we can even offer the bilingualism

[True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)]

NY and California would go as well in that scenario

They might want to, but no way would Canada allow itself to be swallowed up by them, at least not until New England and American Columbia had been thoroly Canadianized. California alone has more people than Canada today, and New York added to New England and American Columbia would make Canadians a minority in their own country.

Well, in that case we should offer to take California (and New Mexico) back. We are big enough. I am sure we can even offer the bilingualism

Only if you agree to take Texas and Arizona as well.

[ag]

NY and California would go as well in that scenario

They might want to, but no way would Canada allow itself to be swallowed up by them, at least not until New England and American Columbia had been thoroly Canadianized. California alone has more people than Canada today, and New York added to New England and American Columbia would make Canadians a minority in their own country.

Well, in that case we should offer to take California (and New Mexico) back. We are big enough. I am sure we can even offer the bilingualism

Only if you agree to take Texas and Arizona as well.

Texas? Sure. But only till the Rio Nueces and San Antonio You can keep the rest. We could also take the AZ part of the Mesilla (the Gadsden purchase). Tucson, not Phoenix. Would be a very natural border

[Tetro Kornbluth]

Quebec would secede from Canada.

[joevsimp]

I think a fair few people in Maine and NH, plus eastern OR and WA might not be too happy about it

[Storebought]

With the Whitest, most economically egalitarian states gone, the remaining US would be even poorer and Browner. It would just make more swift this nation's inevitable decline into being a third world country where the vast majority of people live in slums.

Conversely, the gigantic infusion of relatively rich people into Canada (their population would increase by about a third) would probably help Canada avoid America's fate for at least another 50 years.

Love your racist rant here.  Quoted so you won't delete it and get rid of it.

Especially since its the whites in the remaining US that are the ones responsible for the decline of the country -- not funding schools and infrastructure to pay for tax cuts for the rich are not initiatives stemming from Brown people.

[I’m not Stu]

I personally would not want to join Canada or Mexico if there is a Calexit. I am no fan of Canada's unelected Senate. I prefer a presidential republic with a senate elected by the people with free and fair elections, with ranked choice voting in both houses and the presidency.