PEOTUS reacts on recount request

[boske94]

Statement From President-Elect Donald J. Trump on the Ridiculous Green Party Recount Request:


"The people have spoken and the election is over, and as Hillary Clinton herself said on election night, in addition to her conceding by congratulating me, 'We must accept this result and then look to the future.'
 
"It is important to point out that with the help of millions of voters across the country, we won 306 electoral votes on Election Day - the most of any Republican since 1988 – and we carried nine of 13 battleground states, 30 of 50 states, and more than 2,600 counties nationwide - the most since President Ronald Reagan in 1984.

"This recount is just a way for Jill Stein, who received less than one percent of the vote overall and wasn’t even on the ballot in many states, to fill her coffers with money, most of which she will never even spend on this ridiculous recount. All three states were won by large numbers of voters, especially Pennsylvania, which was won by more than 70,000 votes.

"This is a scam by the Green Party for an election that has already been conceded, and the results of this election should be respected instead of being challenged and abused, which is exactly what Jill Stein is doing."

[No War, but the War on Christmas]

I don't think I'll ever get over the ridiculousness of Republicans trying to claim that the amount of counties or states they won somehow lends credibility.

Just because you decide to go be a hick and live in rural Wyoming doesn't mean your vote should mean more than the  10.1 million in Los Angeles county or the 5.2 million in Cook or the 2.6 million in Miami-Dade or the millions in New York.

One person, one vote. Your cows don't and shouldn't get a vote, sorry.

[Adam Griffin]

Yes, bragging about the Electoral College - especially in the context of having a "mandate" when you failed to carry 54% of the nation's votes - is meaningless BS. You only get to brag about the EC legitimately if you also won the popular vote.

Of course, the GOP does the same bragging with its gerrymandered House "mandate" every two years, so nothing new for the oligarchs who hate democracy.

[boske94]

Yes, bragging about the Electoral College - especially in the context of having a "mandate" when you failed to carry 54% of the nation's votes - is meaningless BS. You only get to brag about the EC legitimately if you also won the popular vote.

Of course, the GOP does the same bragging with its gerrymandered House "mandate" every two years, so nothing new for the oligarchs who hate democracy.

Bill Clinton didn't have 50%, first time he didn't pass 43% but he was legitimate president.

[Person Man]

Yes, bragging about the Electoral College - especially in the context of having a "mandate" when you failed to carry 54% of the nation's votes - is meaningless BS. You only get to brag about the EC legitimately if you also won the popular vote.

Of course, the GOP does the same bragging with its gerrymandered House "mandate" every two years, so nothing new for the oligarchs who hate democracy.

Bill Clinton didn't have 50%, first time he didn't pass 43% but he was legitimate president.

He had millions of more than HW, not millions less.

[boske94]

Yes, bragging about the Electoral College - especially in the context of having a "mandate" when you failed to carry 54% of the nation's votes - is meaningless BS. You only get to brag about the EC legitimately if you also won the popular vote.

Of course, the GOP does the same bragging with its gerrymandered House "mandate" every two years, so nothing new for the oligarchs who hate democracy.

Bill Clinton didn't have 50%, first time he didn't pass 43% but he was legitimate president.

He had millions of more than HW, not millions less.

POINT is  that he didn't win majority, 50% of PV, but he won EC and he is legitimate winner and president. When we (if ever) abandon EC, than winner of PV will be president. Today, when we have EC, campaigning is much different that it would be if we had PV system, and goal for every runner is not to win PV, it's (practically) irrelevant.

[Figueira]

Republican ideology, especially under Trump, is based around the idea that people who live in densely populated areas are worth less than other people.

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Republican ideology, especially under Trump, is based around the idea that people who live in densely populated areas are worth less than other people.

Ironically Trump probably has the highest density home of any Presidential candidate.

[krazen1211]

Yes, bragging about the Electoral College - especially in the context of having a "mandate" when you failed to carry 54% of the nation's votes - is meaningless BS. You only get to brag about the EC legitimately if you also won the popular vote.

Of course, the GOP does the same bragging with its gerrymandered House "mandate" every two years, so nothing new for the oligarchs who hate democracy.

The GOP won the House popular vote in 2016 easily. Liberals are spreading lies about this.

Doesn't count, though, right?

[Person Man]

Republican ideology, especially under Trump, is based around the idea that people who live in densely populated areas are worth less than other people.

Well, go convince a million more Texans of that.

Baby steps...

[Badger]

Yes, bragging about the Electoral College - especially in the context of having a "mandate" when you failed to carry 54% of the nation's votes - is meaningless BS. You only get to brag about the EC legitimately if you also won the popular vote.

Of course, the GOP does the same bragging with its gerrymandered House "mandate" every two years, so nothing new for the oligarchs who hate democracy.

The GOP won the House popular vote in 2016 easily. Liberals are spreading lies about this.

Doesn't count, though, right?

And lost it by a over a million votes in 2012. Gerrymandering over time discourages ompetative candidates and races. This isn't coinciden ce.

Still as dishonest a thug as ever, I see.

[Person Man]

Yes, bragging about the Electoral College - especially in the context of having a "mandate" when you failed to carry 54% of the nation's votes - is meaningless BS. You only get to brag about the EC legitimately if you also won the popular vote.

Of course, the GOP does the same bragging with its gerrymandered House "mandate" every two years, so nothing new for the oligarchs who hate democracy.

The GOP won the House popular vote in 2016 easily. Liberals are spreading lies about this.

Doesn't count, though, right?

And lost it by a over a million votes in 2012. Gerrymandering over time discourages ompetative candidates and races. This isn't coinciden ce.

Still as dishonest a thug as ever, I see.

Our Democracy is in deplorable shape as the free world in general is in deplorable shape.

[Fuzzy Says: "Abolish NPR!"]

Trump played by the rules and won.  He won in free and fair elections, and he won by the rules everyone understood to be the rules going into the election.

The rules don't say that there's a tiebreaker if the PV and EV are split, or that Electors are to use their "moral judgement" in the event of an EV winner with fewer PV.  Trump played by the rules fairly and won.

No one complained when the 82-79 Mets won the pennant in the NLCS in 1973.  No one complained when the under .500 Houston Rockets played the Boston Celtics in the 1980-81 NBA finals, and no one would have complained if there were an under .500 champion.  The Presidency is more than sport, but it's still decided by a process with rules.  Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton knew these rules well.  Trump did a better job with what he had to work with; that's why he's PEOTUS.

[ApatheticAustrian]

i am pretty sure, if the EC/PV difference stays that lopsided, it is going to be changed anyway.....2 in 5 elections is bad, could get worse.

atm it's the law of the land and game over.

it would just be not very clever of the president to ignore the - practical - "silent majority" who hasn't voted for him.

[krazen1211]

The GOP won the House popular vote in 2016 easily. Liberals are spreading lies about this.

Doesn't count, though, right?

And lost it by a over a million votes in 2012. Gerrymandering over time discourages ompetative candidates and races. This isn't coinciden ce.

Still as dishonest a thug as ever, I see.

Interesting. The GOP has easily won 3 out of 4 of the last 4 House elections in the popular vote, by much more than a million votes each time. The story at the time was something about some blue wall or something along those lines and a Democrat advantage in the electoral college, which cannot be gerrymandered. Blah blah blah. Good job!

I guess losers have to cling to something?
 

[White Trash]

Republican ideology, especially under Trump, is based around the idea that people who live in densely populated areas are worth less than other people.

I mean, is he wrong?

[Lothal1]

Republican ideology, especially under Trump, is based around the idea that people who live in densely populated areas are worth less than other people.

Similarly, it is the reverse for Democrats.