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« Reply #50 on: February 26, 2017, 10:21:42 PM »

Democrats would be making a big mistake running Kennedy.  It would be a pure tossup.  They should nominate someone like Lipinski.

Its Illinois not West Virginia we don't need to run a pro life and anti SSM candidate to win. Rauner approval is worse than Christie, its going to be a Trump midterm, and IL partisanship give Democrats an edge. With Kennedy this race is Likely D until proven otherwise.

Rauner is even to the left of Lipinski on social issues.  If Lipinski ran, then Rich Whitney or some Green would surely get double digits again.  Is Rauner's approval rating really worse than Christie's?
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« Reply #51 on: February 26, 2017, 10:32:12 PM »

Democrats would be making a big mistake running Kennedy.  It would be a pure tossup.  They should nominate someone like Lipinski.

lol Lipinski is the classic atlas candidate. Guy looks like dracula, he's meant to hold on to his district and nothing more.
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« Reply #52 on: February 26, 2017, 11:39:04 PM »

Democrats would be making a big mistake running Kennedy.  It would be a pure tossup.  They should nominate someone like Lipinski.

Its Illinois not West Virginia we don't need to run a pro life and anti SSM candidate to win. Rauner approval is worse than Christie, its going to be a Trump midterm, and IL partisanship give Democrats an edge. With Kennedy this race is Likely D until proven otherwise.

Rauner is even to the left of Lipinski on social issues.  If Lipinski ran, then Rich Whitney or some Green would surely get double digits again.  Is Rauner's approval rating really worse than Christie's?

No. Christie's is more than 10 points below Rauner's.
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« Reply #53 on: March 09, 2017, 08:43:34 PM »

Former Illinois Treasurer and 2010 Senate candidate Alexi Giannoulias should run for governor. He's young, handsome and could win against Rauner.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexi_Giannoulias
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« Reply #54 on: March 09, 2017, 08:57:39 PM »

Former Illinois Treasurer and 2010 Senate candidate Alexi Giannoulias should run for governor. He's young, handsome and could win against Rauner.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexi_Giannoulias

That sounds like a perfect idea if the Democrats secretly want to lose.
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« Reply #55 on: March 09, 2017, 09:08:43 PM »

Former Illinois Treasurer and 2010 Senate candidate Alexi Giannoulias should run for governor. He's young, handsome and could win against Rauner.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexi_Giannoulias

Agree, but the best candidate would be the Iron Lady of Cook County, Anita Alvarez.  I love her.
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« Reply #56 on: March 09, 2017, 09:54:50 PM »

Former Illinois Treasurer and 2010 Senate candidate Alexi Giannoulias should run for governor. He's young, handsome and could win against Rauner.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexi_Giannoulias

That sounds like a perfect idea if the Democrats secretly want to lose.

What's wrong with Giannoulias? He only lost to Mark Kirk in a midterm of 2010--a GOP wave year.
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« Reply #57 on: March 09, 2017, 11:24:12 PM »

Former Illinois Treasurer and 2010 Senate candidate Alexi Giannoulias should run for governor. He's young, handsome and could win against Rauner.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexi_Giannoulias

That sounds like a perfect idea if the Democrats secretly want to lose.

What's wrong with Giannoulias? He only lost to Mark Kirk in a midterm of 2010--a GOP wave year.

Meh, I don't think there was any major "wave" in Illinois.  Pat Quinn still won and the democrats still controlled the state legislature.  The more relevant issue was corruption, coming off Blago and well, many other IL governors that are also in jail.  Giannoulias was a slimey person in that mold and people didn't like him, especially downstate.  He was a senior person in a bank that failed (great resume for Treasurer!) and had problems with giving loans to shady people.  Running a person with a history of ethical issues in a state with a history of corruption sounds like a good idea, never.
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« Reply #58 on: March 10, 2017, 12:34:26 AM »

Democrats would be making a big mistake running Kennedy.  It would be a pure tossup.  They should nominate someone like Lipinski.

Its Illinois not West Virginia we don't need to run a pro life and anti SSM candidate to win. Rauner approval is worse than Christie, its going to be a Trump midterm, and IL partisanship give Democrats an edge. With Kennedy this race is Likely D until proven otherwise.

LOL no it's not Likely D with anyone.  It's probably Lean D with Lisa Madigan or Cheri B (who is not running).  Tilt D with any random Chicagoland hack.  Flawless, beautiful Dan Lipinski would win in a landslide.

Regardless of who the nominee is, Rauner is going to get Kirked.
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« Reply #59 on: March 10, 2017, 12:45:11 AM »

Dan Lipinski could never make it through a statewide Democratic primary.
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« Reply #60 on: March 10, 2017, 09:05:33 PM »

Toni Taxwinkle wants it, but she might be waiting for mayor.  She would do poorly outside Cook County.
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« Reply #61 on: March 10, 2017, 09:30:09 PM »

Dan Lipinski could never make it through a statewide Democratic primary.

This, though I would endorse him if he somehow did. Among the other Dems who haven't already said no, I would support Napoleon Harris, and potentially Dan Hynes. Otherwise IL should just reelect Rauner.
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« Reply #62 on: March 10, 2017, 09:48:12 PM »

Dan Lipinski could never make it through a statewide Democratic primary.

This, though I would endorse him if he somehow did. Among the other Dems who haven't already said no, I would support Napoleon Harris, and potentially Dan Hynes. Otherwise IL should just reelect Rauner.

What about Rich Whitey?
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« Reply #63 on: March 11, 2017, 12:32:02 PM »

Dan Lipinski could never make it through a statewide Democratic primary.

This, though I would endorse him if he somehow did. Among the other Dems who haven't already said no, I would support Napoleon Harris, and potentially Dan Hynes. Otherwise IL should just reelect Rauner.

What about Rich Whitey?

LOL NO. The green party needs to die.
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« Reply #64 on: March 12, 2017, 08:59:25 PM »

Judy Biggert would be great.  We need JUDY!
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« Reply #65 on: March 12, 2017, 09:07:52 PM »

Judy Biggert would be great.  We need JUDY!

are you not a fan of Rauner?
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« Reply #66 on: March 12, 2017, 09:13:00 PM »

Judy Biggert would be great.  We need JUDY!

are you not a fan of Rauner?

He's been ok but unfortunately he's bad at politics.  He doesn't know how to play the game, and nothing is getting done.  People didn't elect him to not have a budget for four years.  I drove down to St Louis and all the rest stops were closed.. I had to piss!  If he doesn't accomplish anything in the next year his time in office will have been a big bust, no matter how much he stood by his principles. The Democrats in Illinois are disgraceful, and I blame them for this mess.  Unfortunately, the people of Illinois are too stupid to see that though, so we just have to deal with Madigan and his cronies.
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« Reply #67 on: March 12, 2017, 09:31:31 PM »

Rauner's as dead as McCaskill, why are we still debating this?
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« Reply #68 on: March 12, 2017, 09:34:13 PM »

Rauner's as dead as McCaskill, why are we still debating this?

One should not count out a governor this early. Remember that this guy got reelected:
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« Reply #69 on: March 12, 2017, 09:35:08 PM »

Rauner's as dead as McCaskill, why are we still debating this?

One should not count out a governor this early. Remember that this guy got reelected:

That's what Maine gets for splitting the vote.
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« Reply #70 on: March 12, 2017, 09:36:49 PM »

Rauner's as dead as McCaskill, why are we still debating this?

One should not count out a governor this early. Remember that this guy got reelected:

That's what Maine gets for splitting the vote.

His reelection would have still happened if Cutler didn't run in '14.
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« Reply #71 on: March 12, 2017, 09:38:15 PM »

Rauner's as dead as McCaskill, why are we still debating this?

One should not count out a governor this early. Remember that this guy got reelected:

That's what Maine gets for splitting the vote.

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« Reply #72 on: March 12, 2017, 09:41:12 PM »

Judy Baar Topinka/Lipinski 2018
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« Reply #73 on: March 13, 2017, 01:20:34 AM »

A key difference is that Illinois is Safe D, while Maine is Tilt D at best. Also, Rauner's state isn't 95% White. The McCaskill comparison is actually pretty good: Barring an implosion of the Republican (in MO) or Democratic (in IL) candidate, both of them will probably go down in flames (though McCaskill even more than Rauner). The only thing that could help Rauner is that gubernatorial races are less partisan, but his approval ratings aren't that great either.
I agree. Reelection for governors in states that are strongly against their party either end up as landslides in their favor or dramatic losses.

For example, Schwarzenegger vs Angelides or O'Malley vs. Ehrlich.
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« Reply #74 on: March 13, 2017, 03:14:53 AM »

A key difference is that Illinois is Safe D, while Maine is Tilt D at best. Also, Rauner's state isn't 95% White. The McCaskill comparison is actually pretty good: Barring an implosion of the Republican (in MO) or Democratic (in IL) candidate, both of them will probably go down in flames (though McCaskill even more than Rauner). The only thing that could help Rauner is that gubernatorial races are less partisan, but his approval ratings aren't that great either.
I agree. Reelection for governors in states that are strongly against their party either end up as landslides in their favor or dramatic losses.

For example, Schwarzenegger vs Angelides or O'Malley vs. Ehrlich.

Sebelius 2006 or Strickland vs Kasich
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