Ohio State Attack

[Devout Centrist]

I hope the victims recover, but there's little else to say at this time.

[Devout Centrist]

Suspect dead, people recover, life goes on.

Ultimately, this won't even merit a footnote in history. Another political Rorschach test for the masses.

[Devout Centrist]

Am I the only one who didn't interpret Spicy Purrito's post as a "justification" for the attack?

I dont think anyone read it as attempting to justify the attack. It just reads as clueless that someone thinks this guy was otherwise normal until trump gets elected and then all of a sudden that is the trauma that pushes him over the edge. I definitely agree with waiting for more info on the motive whether it be islam or trump.

I suspect it was someone hurting, someone who felt alienated and alone, someone who needed help but didn't recieve it, who was pushed over the edge by trump. It's important to remember that many members of ethnic minorities were really freaked out that someone who's primary election strategy was to attack those who where different is now president.

Uh... I am an ethnic minority, and so are my American Jewish friends, many of whom weren't exactly pleased when Trump was elected... and they may feel bad, but they don't go around on campus stabbing people or driving cars into people. It's bizarre how some folks on the left think people doing crazy things because they are "pushed over the edge by Trump" is in any way an excuse or a justification. You cannot blame Trump or anyone else for this. You can only blame the guy who did it. There is still something like people's own responsibility in this world. People have agency. People have a choice. This guy made the wrong one. Can't blame Trump or anyone else for that.

And it's pretty insulting to assume ethnic minorities somehow can't be expected to not attack people just because Trump was elected.

My point was that trump was the spark that caused the keg to blow up, metaphorically speaking. We (or at least I) are not arguing that this is all trump's fault. Something else likely would have triggered this if trump had lost. trump was just the final straw. This is someone who was hurting badly enough to turn to violence. I don't assume that members of ethnic minorities are doomed to violence just because of trump. He pushed someone who was already falling apart over the edge, with tragic results.

Most of this called hysteria and projection in the psychological community, I believe.

And yet you still can't directly blame the attacker (an Islamic fundie-2016 has made strange bedfellows, as Simfan recently noted) for his actions.

Is there even evidence that he was a fundimentalist?

Darker skin and a funny name. Enough to make him a terrorist mastermind to the permanent terrified cultists of President-elect Pussygrabber.

I was thinking about the Facebook posts where he praised ISIS leaders, but whatever.

And where are these "Facebook posts where he praised ISIS leaders"? In imagination land, where Pussygrabber is a successful business tycoon, instead of a con artist and actor?

Islamic State claimed responsibility and reports indicate the man was influenced by radical Islamic propaganda.

That being said, I don't see why this makes a huge difference.

[Devout Centrist]

Guys, it's readily apparent this man radicalized and became influenced by fundamentalists in short order. Please don't deny the reality that however sad his isolation was, he still attempted to kill civilians.

Denying reality does nothing to help fix what happened. That being said, we shouldn't stop accepting refugees because of one incident. Our culture is great at assimilating people into accepting (relatively) socially liberal ideas and a lone attack like this is an anomaly on par with other groups.