Stein Misses PA Recount Deadline, Says PA State Department.

[Bigby]

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/pennsylvania-state-department-says-stein-missed-recount-deadline/article/2608305

Congratulations, President-Elect Donald Trump. Even if Wisconsin suddenly turns blue, Trump maintains 280 EVs at mimimum thanks to PA. If Michigan holds too under the WI-flip hypothetical, Trump wins by 296 EVs. The Clinton-Stein effort to change the result in WI is now ultimately fruitless.

[Fusionmunster]

If there are large voter discrepancies found in Wisconsin and Michigan, then it won't matter. No one expected this to change the results.

Edit: Although I'd like a better source than the Washington Examiner please.

[Xing]

It almost certainly wouldn't have made a difference, considering the size of the gap. If, by some chance, there is evidence of foul play in Wisconsin or Michigan, we'll be in for a ton of chaos either way.

[Associate Justice PiT]

     This is basically just a ploy for attention. These recounts aren't going anywhere and Stein knows this.

[elcorazon]

     This is basically just a ploy for attention. There's no voter fraud, no illegals are voting and Trump knows this. He's just trying to cover for his popular vote loss which eats at his oversized ego.

[Absentee Voting Ghost of Ruin]

     This is basically just a ploy for attention. These recounts aren't going anywhere and Stein knows this.

They are potentially the start of a movement (from the left) to de-legitimize Trump in much the same way the GOP tried to de-legitimize Obama. Spun rightwingnut-talkradio style, this becomes a "Trump didn't really win" meme to dog him with for the next 4-8 years. That it isn't technically true wouldn't matter, it would provide a drumbeat for the anti-Trump faithful.

[Pandaguineapig]

     This is basically just a ploy for attention. These recounts aren't going anywhere and Stein knows this.

They are potentially the start of a movement (from the left) to de-legitimize Trump in much the same way the GOP tried to de-legitimize Obama. Spun rightwingnut-talkradio style, this becomes a "Trump didn't really win" meme to dog him with for the next 4-8 years. That it isn't technically true wouldn't matter, it would provide a drumbeat for the anti-Trump faithful.

It's also a way to get dim-witted democrats to fund her 2020 bid

[Lincoln Republican]

http://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2016/11/28/steins-recount-crusade-in-pennsylvania-not-as-clear-cut-riddled-with-hurdles-n2251834

“We have not seen any evidence that anything has been compromised since we had the machines,” Allegheny County Director of Elections Mark Wolosik said.

According to the Department of State, there were 9,163 voting precincts in Pennsylvania during the 2016 election. So Stein would need over 27,000 voters to file notarized affidavits, but it's unclear if that avenue is even still available.

Ha Ha

So I say good luck Ms Stein.  I don't envy your task.

[Attorney General, LGC Speaker, and Former PPT Dwarven Dragon]

Automatic recount is <0.5%, recount by petition was indeed due a week ago, but Stein filed today for a recount based on an allegation of voter fraud: http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2016/11/28/jill_stein_requests_recount_in_pennsylvania_but_has_no_evidence_of_fraud.html

I imagine there's some sort of process her claim has to go through before a recount can happen, given that if it was a free for all, anyone could file for a recount based on a sudden hunch (based on selfish personal reasons or no reasons at all) that there was fraud. But I don't know the details of said process.

[Lincoln Republican]

http://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2016/11/28/steins-recount-crusade-in-pennsylvania-not-as-clear-cut-riddled-with-hurdles-n2251834

Quote from the above article.

Green Party candidate Jill Stein has filed a recount challenged in Pennsylvania, but it’s a petition riddled with legal hurdles, some of which may be too high for this clown show to overcome. First, a statewide recount is out of the question, as some counties’ recount deadlines have passed. Stein will have to challenge the official results in court, providing evidence that there was indeed outside influences meddling with the election process. The problem: no evidence exists

[Fusionmunster]

http://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2016/11/28/steins-recount-crusade-in-pennsylvania-not-as-clear-cut-riddled-with-hurdles-n2251834

Quote from the above article.

Green Party candidate Jill Stein has filed a recount challenged in Pennsylvania, but it’s a petition riddled with legal hurdles, some of which may be too high for this clown show to overcome. First, a statewide recount is out of the question, as some counties’ recount deadlines have passed. Stein will have to challenge the official results in court, providing evidence that there was indeed outside influences meddling with the election process. The problem: no evidence exists

Townhall isnt exaclty unbiased either.

[Lincoln Republican]

True, but there must be some accuracy here. 

[Associate Justice PiT]

     This is basically just a ploy for attention. These recounts aren't going anywhere and Stein knows this.

They are potentially the start of a movement (from the left) to de-legitimize Trump in much the same way the GOP tried to de-legitimize Obama. Spun rightwingnut-talkradio style, this becomes a "Trump didn't really win" meme to dog him with for the next 4-8 years. That it isn't technically true wouldn't matter, it would provide a drumbeat for the anti-Trump faithful.

     The #NeverTrump crowd is going to eat up anything that supports their narrative. This whole recount saga is ridiculous and a waste of time, but it doesn't matter for the people who want to believe that President Trump is illegitimate. It doesn't matter for the people who are currently protesting and disrupting.

     As you allude to, conservatives were criticized for taking much the same tack throughout the Obama Administration. Now that the shoe's on the other foot, liberals are resorting to the same coping mechanisms.

[Fusionmunster]

     This is basically just a ploy for attention. These recounts aren't going anywhere and Stein knows this.

They are potentially the start of a movement (from the left) to de-legitimize Trump in much the same way the GOP tried to de-legitimize Obama. Spun rightwingnut-talkradio style, this becomes a "Trump didn't really win" meme to dog him with for the next 4-8 years. That it isn't technically true wouldn't matter, it would provide a drumbeat for the anti-Trump faithful.

     The #NeverTrump crowd is going to eat up anything that supports their narrative. This whole recount saga is ridiculous and a waste of time, but it doesn't matter for the people who want to believe that President Trump is illegitimate. It doesn't matter for the people who are currently protesting and disrupting.

     As you allude to, conservatives were criticized for taking much the same tack throughout the Obama Administration. Now that the shoe's on the other foot, liberals are resorting to the same coping mechanisms.

EXCEPT, winning the popular vote by over 2 million votes and foreign interference from a foreign power seems alot more serious than a dog whistle attack involving Obamas birth certificate.

[Andrew]

A recount in Pennsylvania would be essentially worthless anyway--most of the counties use electronic machines with no paper trail.  A recount amounts to asking the machines if they counted the votes correctly the first time.

Such machines are one of the many problems with the voting system in our country.

Because we do know that the votes were counted inaccurately in Pennsylvania--just as they were counted inaccurately in every other state.  They always are.  That's why recounts always result in changes to the vote totals.

[jaichind]

I think they van recycle all those "Re-defeat Bush" T-shirts from 2004 to make "Re-defeat Trump" shirts.

[Lincoln Republican]

I think they van recycle all those "Re-defeat Bush" T-shirts from 2004 to make "Re-defeat Trump" shirts.

But Trump never lost.

Clinton lost.

[Fusionmunster]

I think they van recycle all those "Re-defeat Bush" T-shirts from 2004 to make "Re-defeat Trump" shirts.

But Trump never lost.

Clinton lost.

You missed the point.

Bush II lost the popular vote as did Trump so both were "defeated". 

[Lothal1]

Time for her to cash out.

[Associate Justice PiT]

     This is basically just a ploy for attention. These recounts aren't going anywhere and Stein knows this.

They are potentially the start of a movement (from the left) to de-legitimize Trump in much the same way the GOP tried to de-legitimize Obama. Spun rightwingnut-talkradio style, this becomes a "Trump didn't really win" meme to dog him with for the next 4-8 years. That it isn't technically true wouldn't matter, it would provide a drumbeat for the anti-Trump faithful.

     The #NeverTrump crowd is going to eat up anything that supports their narrative. This whole recount saga is ridiculous and a waste of time, but it doesn't matter for the people who want to believe that President Trump is illegitimate. It doesn't matter for the people who are currently protesting and disrupting.

     As you allude to, conservatives were criticized for taking much the same tack throughout the Obama Administration. Now that the shoe's on the other foot, liberals are resorting to the same coping mechanisms.

EXCEPT, winning the popular vote by over 2 million votes and foreign interference from a foreign power seems alot more serious than a dog whistle attack involving Obamas birth certificate.

     Winning the popular vote is irrelevant. Trump won the most electors, which is the sole determinant of who is elected President. That there are rules that are agreed upon and followed is a basic fact of politics in a Constitutional Republic.

     Interference from Russia is an old saw, yet where was the outrage over various European leaders trying to influence the Brexit vote? Liberals were surprisingly okay with foreign interference when it benefited their side. I'm not going to say that foreign powers doing as they please to influence our elections is alright, but I take issue with the selective outrage.

[Lincoln Republican]

I think they van recycle all those "Re-defeat Bush" T-shirts from 2004 to make "Re-defeat Trump" shirts.

But Trump never lost.

Clinton lost.

You missed the point.

Bush II lost the popular vote as did Trump so both were "defeated". 

I fully realized that was the point, however, I did not want to leave the impression that I viewed Trump as the loser of the election.

[Ban my account ffs!]

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/pennsylvania-state-department-says-stein-missed-recount-deadline/article/2608305

Congratulations, President-Elect Donald Trump. Even if Wisconsin suddenly turns blue, Trump maintains 280 EVs at mimimum thanks to PA. If Michigan holds too under the WI-flip hypothetical, Trump wins by 296 EVs. The Clinton-Stein effort to change the result in WI is now ultimately fruitless.

If Wisconsin flips, it opens a big can of worms.  And a good amount of chaos.  Good luck, Don.

[Lincoln Republican]

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/pennsylvania-state-department-says-stein-missed-recount-deadline/article/2608305

Congratulations, President-Elect Donald Trump. Even if Wisconsin suddenly turns blue, Trump maintains 280 EVs at mimimum thanks to PA. If Michigan holds too under the WI-flip hypothetical, Trump wins by 296 EVs. The Clinton-Stein effort to change the result in WI is now ultimately fruitless.

If Wisconsin flips, it opens a big can of worms.  And a good amount of chaos.  Good luck, Don.

Obviously Wisconsin is not going to flip. 

This whole useless exercise is a monumental waste of time.

[FairBol]

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/pennsylvania-state-department-says-stein-missed-recount-deadline/article/2608305

Congratulations, President-Elect Donald Trump. Even if Wisconsin suddenly turns blue, Trump maintains 280 EVs at mimimum thanks to PA. If Michigan holds too under the WI-flip hypothetical, Trump wins by 296 EVs. The Clinton-Stein effort to change the result in WI is now ultimately fruitless.

This.  Hey liberals, hate to say I told you so, but....I TOLD YOU SO!! LOL. 

[mencken]

If there are large voter discrepancies found in Wisconsin and Michigan, then it won't matter. No one expected this to change the results.

Edit: Although I'd like a better source than the Washington Examiner please.

What are these large voter discrepancies that justify an expensive effort to determine whether Trump won a state by 27000 or 28000 votes?